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View Poll Results: Why hasn't a male player won a GS for almost 30 years?
Structural problem in french tennis 3 4.84%
Lack of luck 8 12.90%
Just not good enough 18 29.03%
All mental midgets 33 53.23%
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post #76 of 102 (permalink) Old 01-25-2012, 06:26 PM
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Re: What's the problem with french tennis??

The French have nothing to complain really. They have the best that a nation can hope to get with investment and appreciation for Tennis, a solid number of top 10 players and top 20, top40, top 100, etc.

Getting GS and being N.1, while highly desirable, is not a science and something that can be controlled, doesn't mean that something is not right. Now, having several top players is, and France is in that.

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Call me crazy but I think Gasquet is way better than Murray. He only lacks a bit of fitness and especially a tennis brain. He plays the best tennis to lose. When he is really offensive throughout a match, he is a top-notch player (see his Gonzales A0 09, Roddick IW 10, Roddick W 07...) This guy is just a tactical and mental nonsense.
What is this best tennis to lose stuff? Gasquet is quite limited as a player man. While having a great shot in the game, the BH, he also has one of the weakest, the FH. The Forehand is the second most important shot in tennis, just behind the serve, having a weak Forehand like Gasquet has is no joke. In my view, He is one of the weakest of the top French players, now compared to Murray? he is not even in the same picture.
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Anyway let's finish it, it's something I will never understand about you Gasquetfans,
I beg to differ. We are all not the same.

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What is this best tennis to lose stuff? Gasquet is quite limited as a player man. While having a great shot in the game, the BH, he also has one of the weakest, the FH. The Forehand is the second most important shot in tennis, just behind the serve, having a weak Forehand like Gasquet has is no joke. In my view, He is one of the weakest of the top French players, now compared to Murray? he is not even in the same picture.
Their H2H say the contrary.
3-2 for Murray and two five sets wins for Murray when he only beats physically Gasquet.
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Their H2H say the contrary.
3-2 for Murray and two five sets wins for Murray when he only beats physically Gasquet.
Gasquet's sole wins were 5 and 6 years ago, Murray was what, 18 or 19 then? Last year Gasquet played pretty well and still lost in straights to Murray - maybe they were close when they were youngsters, but now they gap seems pretty wide.

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Their H2H say the contrary.
3-2 for Murray and two five sets wins for Murray when he only beats physically Gasquet.
Really, you gonna pull the H2h on me? How does their Masters series, Slam finals, semi finals, time in the top 5 and victories over the top 5 compare? Come on man, I like Gasquet and I wish he didn't have such a major gap in his arsenal, that it makes his game flawed compared to solid top players.
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Hard to call "great" players who have such glaring weaknesses in their game (BH for Tsonga, rally FH for Gasquet, no weapons for Simon)
Who cares about their weaknesses. All players, even GOAT candidates have had glaring weaknesses. What separates them from the rest is their mental strength, being able to pull the right shot even with their weakest assets and being able to use their strengths as best they can. I mean Murray doesn't have a forehand similar to Gasquet and they both have excellent backhands, but who is #4 in the world? Tsonga is "successful" so he really shouldn't be in this equation. There can only be 1 winner at the slams and Tsonga is a bit unlucky to be in this field of the top 4. Simon was always going to have a tough time. Small frame, somewhat slightly shorter, etc. The way he plays, as in similar to Murray, really makes him matches rely on his opponents. Similar to Tsonga, I think he was just unlucky to be in this field. Gael Monfils is the only really questionable one, but as I have pointed out, it is all mental, especially for his case.

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They still value Style over substance...Style is allright in exhibitions but in matches you need pure Desire to win. And that is what is lacking big time in French Players.
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in the end of 2005 yes, in the end of 2006, I guess if the forum polls said that, it's because people just like Gasquet : it's the same as 60% of the people expecting Federer to win the Aus open before the tournament

What I remember from serious people in the end of 2006 was that Murray was the most expected one, Gasquet and Djokovic were close seconds but Djokovic was one year younger.
Hahaha those serious people would eat their words now hahahaha, Djokovic was a close second behind Murray? Was one of those people you? Be honest now
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Gasquet's sole wins were 5 and 6 years ago, Murray was what, 18 or 19 then? Last year Gasquet played pretty well and still lost in straights to Murray - maybe they were close when they were youngsters, but now they gap seems pretty wide.
H2H record is there for a reason, so are you saying that Djokovic's H2H records against Nadal and Federer don't mean anything as most of Djokovic's losses to them were before Djokovic turned 21, I am a Djokovic's fan and wish that your analogy is valid but it's not, losses are losses and you just have to deal with that
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Nothing wrong with French tennis, so none of the above. It has lots of depth, maybe no GS winner but that doesn't define a good tennis program. In fact depth is probably a better indication of a strong program than a GS winner - ask the Swiss and Federer.

Stop obsessing about Grand Slams. A country has very little to do with developing a Grand Slam winner - those are few and far between. A GS winner has something special that comes from within not developed by a country.
Yes, I agree, it's the same with it doesn't matter how much England spend on football/soccer, it will never win the European championship, let alone the World Cup.
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Tsonga is the only French player who can beat Federer, Djokovic and Nadal at their peak. Moreover, he's the only one who has a chance to win a Grand Slam.

Monfils, Gasquet and Simon are clearly behind Jo...
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Re: What's the problem with french tennis??

it's french.

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The French players as a group are my favorite to watch- lots of drama and shotmaking and/or hot guys

As to what is wrong with French tennis- nothing I don't think. What about Swiss tennis? What if Fed had decided to play for South Africa(where his mom is from)? Would look a lot different.

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Just wait tonight Monfils will bring back the confidence for French tennis after he manhandled Delpo
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