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Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

Monf is playing with much more consistent aggression than usual rather than passive strokes with some fleeting massive shots, any thoughts? Good direction for him?
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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

Great direction for him. Just look at his biggest results and best performances and nearly all of them have been when playing like this.
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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

Point is: he's finally trying to play tennis. Good for the game, he can be a consistent top10 player.
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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

Yeah he's actually trying to construct his point now instead of just pushing the ball for 30 shots and then randomly going for the freak winner.

That said it seems to me that his biggest weakness (apart from his brain) is that he doesn't really know how to start a rally in a favorable position. Often you'll see him hit a massive serve or return and get a mediocre reply, only to start a neutral rally and try to get the upper hand from there. If he gets an easy put-away he'll take care of it but he doesn't really have that one-two punch à la Tsonga or Berdych. Maybe that's why he's serve-and-volleying more and more these days.
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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

Yes, that is a good point. His main weekness right now is not being able to rip that forehand when he has a short ball. He just seems to spin it to the center and allows good players to counterpunch by wrongfooting him.
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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

Agree. And he's sure as hell better to watch when he's playing the way he did today
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Monf is playing with much more consistent aggression than usual rather than passive strokes with some fleeting massive shots, any thoughts? Good direction for him?
He still sorely lacks talent so it doesn't change anything.
He'll never win a Slam, let alone consistently challenge the top 4.
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He still sorely lacks talent so it doesn't change anything.
He'll never win a Slam, let alone consistently challenge the top 4.
Penetrating analysis mate, thanks for your contribution.
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Penetrating analysis mate, thanks for your contribution.
if only his game could be as penetrating as my analysis.
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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

If I thought he'd play this way on a regular basis, it would be good news. But he's done this before and then regressed back to the pusher.
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Very talented player. Would be good for the game to see him incorporate some strategic point constructions.

It's the one major hole in his game but it's not something that will come overnight. For a professional player the game is so fast that he won't have an opportunity to think about every shot. His instincts just have to get better.

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yuri27 : As a lot of french people, you hate Monfils and can't be objective about him. Always the same things ...

About his gamestyle it's not new. He played like this since Rasheed start with some very good matches in 2009 (Doha, French Open, US Open, Metz, Bercy ...). He was improving and if 2010 wasn't his best year with personal problems (he wasn't really focus on tennis in the first half of the season), he did a great end with matches very solid as in US Open, Montpellier, Davis Cup and Bercy again. Last year he decided to really go to the net but injuries, as usual (2009 : knees and wrist, 2010: wrist, 2011: wrist and knees), curbed him. He started to really play in summer with full matches in Washington or Cincinnati (great match against Kohli and Djoko) and Stockholm.

Now he's still improving this game and has to be more consistent on backhand attacks and volleys. If he's more regular he can do very good things, on any ground. He can beat the top 4 but has to believe in him.

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^^^^^^ by the way I don't understand the reasoning behind Monfils hiring Chamagne who is a physical trainer and not a technical player

At this point Monfils needs a COACH not a trainer;he is fit but he needs to be willing to hire someone who will work on tactics with him before matches

his choice of Chamagne quite honestly baffles me just like hiring Rasheed did.You'd think he'd want to go technical
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^^^^^^ by the way I don't understand the reasoning behind Monfils hiring Chamagne who is a physical trainer and not a technical player

At this point Monfils needs a COACH not a trainer;he is fit but he needs to be willing to hire someone who will work on tactics with him

his choice of Chamagne quite honestly baffles me just like hiring Rasheed did.You'd think he'd want to go technical
Technical is still the wrong choice here though. He has the technique and the talent, it is the tactics and mental part of the game he needs most work with. So while hiring a coach like Chamagne may be strange, I really don't see how a technical coach would really help Monfils any more or less.

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Re: Monfils gamestyle: high % strokes + some low % winners vs. consistent aggression

I think it's a kind of Tsonga's choice, he decided to work without a real coach but with Chamagne, whom he knows for a long time, he has to work himself on technique and tactic. I think, contrary a lot of people, that he's a very smart player but it's his concentration who can go up & down. Here he's forced to stay focus and can't complain about anything, thing he did sometimes with a coach. Here he's in a way, alone and has to be more mature.

I understand it and only results will tell us ...

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