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No Roger won´t have multi slam year. I have few scenarios, with Roger winning 1 slam -
Don´have any scenario for him with AO or RG, can´t imagine with that. He can win either Wimbledon or USO but not both of them. At Wimby if he play good he can win - i can see him as biggest favorit if he is playing good, at USO if he will play good still, Nole can beat him and who knows how good will be Delpo or somebody else, like Murray finally playing his maximum. Even 1 slam scenario for Roger is 50-50 maximum i think, 2 slams NO.
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No Roger won´t have multi slam year. I have few scenarios, with Roger winning 1 slam -
Don´have any scenario for him with AO or RG, can´t imagine with that. He can win either Wimbledon or USO but not both of them. At Wimby if he play good he can win - i can see him as biggest favorit if he is playing good, at USO if he will play good still, Nole can beat him and who knows how good will be Delpo or somebody else, like Murray finally playing his maximum. Even 1 slam scenario for Roger is 50-50 maximum i think, 2 slams NO.
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the fifth player has a 1/4th chance of drawing the mentioned people .With top 8 ,that wont be the case since every member will draw at least 1 member of the top 8 making it more fair .Also as you can see the difference between them is still the same almost
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Yes my mistake i had opened both and didn´t realize that i am posting in another
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Also, he didn't play a single top 5 seed in two of his slam titles: the 2007 Australian Open [10th slam] & Wimbledon 2009 [15th slam]
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Not to mention Gonzalez was far and away the 2nd best player in the tournament in '07. Once again a case of using statistics to purport a very thinly veiled agenda.

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Not to mention Gonzalez was far and away the 2nd best player in the tournament in '07. Once again a case of using statistics to purport a very thinly veiled agenda.
and yet if you compare him to today's top players he was mediocre
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and yet if you compare him to today's top players he was mediocre
In his match against Haas in the semis he made 42 winners and 3 unforced errors.
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No he is NOT. Gonzo in AO'07 was better than Murray in AO'11 and '10, Nadal W'11, Berdych W'11....
Did you see how he was playing back then? His FH has a guillotine and he would have eaten Murray or Berdych alive. And btb, he dismissed Nadal in straights and made like 2 or 3 UEs in the semi during that run. Show me how today's top players are better

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Gonzo AO'07 was on a sick roll, played out of his mind in most matches and also performed at least well against Federer.
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I have to tell you, you couldn't have chosen a worst example to make that contention about. If you want, pm me and I'll point you to all Gonzo's matches in that AO '07 run, so at least you can speak from some kind of informed position



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Did you ever watch these 'mediocre' players in their primes, or have you just started watching tennis in 2011?
I bet he´ll tell you that he follows Djokovic since the very beginning!

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Re: Fed/Rafa/Djoker: how often they've faced the top 5

You know, one could easily turn it around and claim that the reason Federer met less top 5 players during his runs because of the "superb depth" of the field while Djokovic, and I guess Nadal in this case, have met more because Federer, Murray, Djokovic, Nadal are playing in a "weak field."

I'm not saying that is the case, but I'm just pointing out the mere hypocrisy of MTF logic. Any stat can mean anything you want it to be depending on your biases.

E: However, as several have pointed out over the years, 2004 did have a quite strong top 10.

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