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Lleyton Hewitt 30 47.62%
Jim Courier 26 41.27%
meh... 7 11.11%
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post #31 of 55 (permalink) Old 12-27-2011, 02:27 AM
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Hewitt more talented, Courier superior career.

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Re: Who's more talented? Hewitt vs. Courier

Courier had a higher level of competition when he won his Grand Slams than Hewitt did. both weren't on top of the game in particularly strong periods of time BUT you can't be on top in much more of a transitional period than Hewitt was. I think memory becomes a problem, like with this poll, people vote for Hewitt because they better remember his best moments, and forget how great Courier was at certain points. Not at all similar styles but Courier was very talented off the baseline and it's a bit of a myth that people figured him out as much as that someone with his style couldn't dominate for a prolonged period of time against the variety that was around as the 90's developed.

Definitely Courier > Hewitt as far as talent, Hewitt got extremely lucky no one else emerged with him besides Roddick and that the other great players were winding down. Federer was MIA for a few years as well which definitely helped.

Courier had a tougher field and was more talented.

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Uh, your point? RG and AO is not in question bro. I said Courier would beat Hewitt at RG and AO pretty easily. Wimbledon and US Open are in question here.

Honestly i cant see a Peak Hewitt beating peak Courier.

As we had discussed earlier Courier had better Ground Strokes,Better serve over Hewitt. Only thing Hewitt was par at was their temperament. Both had a Champions mentality,bear in mind i am talking about their Peak levels.

So i would say it would be Courier over Hewitt on all surfaces including Wimbeldon and US Open.
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Peak Hewitt didn't have close to the firepower of Peak Courier. However, Hewitt was like a roadrunner during his peak years.
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Talent wise it has to be Hewitt - his court craft and all round skills are far ahead of Courier.

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Good question. Courier was bigger and stronger and won more slams but I think Hewitt was actually the more talented player. Quicker, more aesthetic and a better fighter, not that Courier wasn't a super animal great fighter but Hewitt was the greatest fighter I ever saw on court, even better than Nadal pound for pound, Nadal was much bigger and stronger but Hewitt was like a rabid pack of Heyenas. Hewitt loved to scrap it out, he was the supreme player and that was an incredible feat because he did it against all the HWTs and Hewitt was a welterweight in stature. I think Hewitt's backhand was far better than the Rock's too, and so was his net game and footspeed/court coverage. Not to take anything away from Courier because he was an overachiever and a phenomenal player too but Hewitt was more talented IMO.
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Courier had a higher level of competition when he won his Grand Slams than Hewitt did.

True. But strangely, Courier had most success when the competition was best, 91-93. For example, end 92 the top10: Courier, Edberg, Sampras, Ivanisevic, Becker, Chang, Korda, Lendl and Krajicek. Now some weren't the players they had been, or the players they would become, so that looks stronger than it is ....... but still, topping that lot takes some doing.

Oddly enough, despite the level of the field dropping away seriously as the 90s went on, Courier never regained the level of those years.
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Re: Who's more talented? Hewitt vs. Courier

Courier is more hardworking
Hewitt is more talented but burnt out

Courier could not establish his dynasty, because of Sampras.
Hewitt could not establish his dynasty, not because of Federer, but because of his strategy.

No doubt, Hewitt has more effect on Tennis history than Courier. (S&Vers are totally KOed by Baseliners, especially by defensive baseliners like Hewitt (and now Nadal).
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The statistics don't lie... Hewitt by a long shot. See attached Statistics
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Not to let a good bump go to waste....

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Re: Who's more talented? Hewitt vs. Courier

Courier by a country mile.
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Re: Who's more talented? Hewitt vs. Courier

I don't know why this thread was revived, but I'd like to know where I can get a pair of rose-colored lenses people oft-review the past with.

Reading this thread, you would think Courier was some all-court legend rather than the decidedly one-dimensional great he actually was.

"Solid backhand" That's so generous.

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Courier played baseball on a tennis court.

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The statistics don't lie... Hewitt by a long shot. See attached Statistics
Courier's numbers are IMO unfairly skewed due to his immediate decline after 1993, he was burned out. Hewitt on the other hand didn't drop in results as quickly because he was pretty much a top contender from about 2000 till perhaps around 2006. Such a question requires one to look at just their peak years. But yes, in overall numbers, Hewitt perhaps the more successful player despite the lack of 2 slams.

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