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Respect , or lack thereof

As a relatively new poster in this forum, I have to say that I'm disappointed by the frequent disparaging comments towards players and other posters, made by many fans (i.e. fanatics) who mostly portray things in black and white. I've tried to ignore these comments, but it is so pervasive, that I could no longer linger in apathetic stupor. There is a great lack of respect toward players that are not their particular favorites, or towards posters who have favorites other than their own. I'm astonished by labeling like "mugs" (and worse), derogatory warping of player names, belittling of achievements, and praising failures. It's normal to have favorites and to admire them accordingly, but it's almost sick how some feel compelled to denigrate the other players or particular performances in an apparent misguided effort to give their favorite a boost.

Do people realize how difficult it is to make it to the level of top 100 (or even 500) players in the world? Try to imagine yourself as a player trying to be competitive at this level. No player in any sport can be at their best in every performance, though most try to give it their best effort, otherwise they would not be at this level. Try to consider the feelings of a player who might at times read comments in this forum. Please attempt to show more respect and appreciate those that are deserving of better. Let's applaud and recognize players who perform well and commiserate with those players (and their supporters) that are having a bad time of it. Try to make posts more constructive and less destructive. Let's elevate our comments in this forum, as a good player raises their game when the going gets tough. By respecting others, one usually earns respect in return.

I applaud those in this forum who do show and have respect toward players and posters.
Many in this forum have welcomed me, expressed their kindness toward me, encouraged me, and I appreciate it.
This is the first thread I've started, I hope it won't be the last!

And to all, I wish you an enjoyable New Year in 2012 watching the best tennis players in the world!

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As a relatively new poster in this forum, I have to say that I'm disappointed by the frequent disparaging comments towards players and other posters, made by many fans (i.e. fanatics) who mostly portray things in black and white. I've tried to ignore these comments, but it is so pervasive, that I could no longer linger in apathetic stupor. There is a great lack of respect toward players that are not their particular favorites, or towards posters who have favorites other than their own. I'm astonished by labeling like "mugs" (and worse), derogatory warping of player names, belittling of achievements, and praising failures. It's normal to have favorites and to admire them accordingly, but it's almost sick how some feel compelled to denigrate the other players or particular performances in an apparent misguided effort to give their favorite a boost.

Do people realize how difficult it is to make it to the level of top 100 (or even 500) players in the world? Try to imagine yourself as a player trying to be competitive at this level. No player in any sport can be at their best in every performance, though most try to give it their best effort, otherwise they would not be at this level. Try to consider the feelings of a player who might at times read comments in this forum. Please attempt to show more respect and appreciate those that are deserving of better. Let's applaud and recognize players who perform well and commiserate with those players (and their supporters) that are having a bad time of it. Try to make posts more constructive and less destructive. Let's elevate our comments in this forum, as a good player raises their game when the going gets tough. By respecting others, one usually earns respect in return.

I applaud those in this forum who do show and have respect toward players and posters.
Many in this forum have welcomed me, expressed their kindness toward me, encouraged me, and I appreciate it.
This is the first thread I've started, I hope it won't be the last!

And to all, I wish you an enjoyable New Year in 2012 watching the best tennis players in the world!

Best regards,
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You've got to register at http://www.elitemenstennisforums.com/, we're just the sewage collection system of that site and some are proud of it.

Anyway, welcome here, and feel free to up the level of MTF, it will be appreciated but make sure you have valium at your disposal during your MTF sessions.
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As a relatively new poster in this forum, I have to say that I'm disappointed by the frequent disparaging comments towards players and other posters, made by many fans (i.e. fanatics) who mostly portray things in black and white. I've tried to ignore these comments, but it is so pervasive, that I could no longer linger in apathetic stupor. There is a great lack of respect toward players that are not their particular favorites, or towards posters who have favorites other than their own. I'm astonished by labeling like "mugs" (and worse), derogatory warping of player names, belittling of achievements, and praising failures. It's normal to have favorites and to admire them accordingly, but it's almost sick how some feel compelled to denigrate the other players or particular performances in an apparent misguided effort to give their favorite a boost.

Do people realize how difficult it is to make it to the level of top 100 (or even 500) players in the world? Try to imagine yourself as a player trying to be competitive at this level. No player in any sport can be at their best in every performance, though most try to give it their best effort, otherwise they would not be at this level. Try to consider the feelings of a player who might at times read comments in this forum. Please attempt to show more respect and appreciate those that are deserving of better. Let's applaud and recognize players who perform well and commiserate with those players (and their supporters) that are having a bad time of it. Try to make posts more constructive and less destructive. Let's elevate our comments in this forum, as a good player raises their game when the going gets tough. By respecting others, one usually earns respect in return.

I applaud those in this forum who do show and have respect toward players and posters.
Many in this forum have welcomed me, expressed their kindness toward me, encouraged me, and I appreciate it.
This is the first thread I've started, I hope it won't be the last!

And to all, I wish you an enjoyable New Year in 2012 watching the best tennis players in the world!

Best regards,
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good post in wrong forum. all the best, i hope you won't lose your sanity here.
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No one on this forum other than a select few have respect for Gael but it doesnt bother me because they just dont get La Monf's personality.



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If I were you, masterclass, I would not come to MTF looking for respectful comments towards player or other posters That's like looking in a septic tank and hoping to find diamonds

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just kidding...but remember sooner or later you'll fall in the dark side....most of us join this forum with the hope of having a lively and intellectual debate about tennis but somewhere along the line we get sucked in to the bitch fest that is MTF lingo and thinking...
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You are so new. I love your idealism.

Seriously though, it's just the way this forum is. I used to get pissed off at Federer haters who call him a mug and whatever else but I've learned to laugh at it and the posters who make those posts. I mostly succeed but sometimes I get caught up in the bitching too - not my finest moment, I admit.

This place isn't the place to go for intellectual/serious/actual tennis discussion. But you do get sane posters every now and then. I hope you stay sane - MTF needs people like you. Just ignore the clowns.

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I highly appreciate your effort to call for some sanity on this forum, masterclass, but feel you're fighting for a lost cause. There are unfortunately a lot of trolls and overzealous biased fanboys (it's often hard to tell the difference between those) around over here, making it barely possible to ever have a serious discussion about tennis that lasts longer than page 1 of any thread started. Best to ignore them, but I do agree it's quite difficult at times. Good luck with that, and I hope you'll stay around!

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Never insult a tennis player, or for that matter, anyone else about their ability or level of performance.
Either their ability is better than yours will ever hope to be, or their ability might eventually surpass yours.
Respecting others makes one worthy of respect in return. Happy New Year. - masterclass

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If I were you, masterclass, I would not come to MTF looking for respectful comments towards player or other posters That's like looking in a septic tank and hoping to find diamonds

I do hope you enjoy your stay here, though.
septic tank...diamonds good one, Groove.
But I'm an eternal optimist; always hoping that something of value can rise to the top given some encouragement.
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Hmm,well one always has hope that things have a chance to be better if one makes the effort. Surely if one does not make the effort, one can't expect things to get better. Sadly, apathy among a reasonable group of people is what can lead an inept group to rule and lead all to misery. Thanks for your support. - masterclass

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...have respect for Gael...
A wonderful, dynamic player. What athleticism. When healthy, one of the fastest players on tour. Really fun to watch when he is flying around the court.

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This is how things go on MTF
You'll get used to it quick you'll see
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No one on this forum other than a select few have respect for Gael but it doesnt bother me because they just dont get La Monf's personality.
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You're so boring with your idealism, dude. Get back to earth and face the reality.
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