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If we went back to the old conditions. Who would dominate?

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I would have to think Nole and Rafa's domination would cease other then on clay and maybe in Australia but they were struggle the rest of the seasons under faster conditons. Same with Murray's results going downhill. Maybe a good counterpuncher on grass like or at the USO like Hewitt. Tsonga and Berdych being major threats and slam winners under the old conditions? Fed dominating?
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Re: If we went back to the old conditions. Who would dominate?

nothing would change, if anything delpo would dominate even more.
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Re: If we went back to the old conditions. Who would dominate?

I really think Del Potro would be hurt by old conditions. His serve is not great for a guy his height and he is not even that great on grass at current conditions...I can only imagine that old grass would be worse. Ferrer beat him on slow clay in Davis Cup, but a faster surface would have really helped him. He would still be good on hardcourts though.

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It would almost surely help Murray. Counterpunchers need faster courts to redirect pace.

It would probably hurt Rafa and Nole somewhat, and help Federer obviously.

Del Potro is an interesting case. He'd be better on slower clay, worse on grass and its unclear about the USO, but I think he'd still be great there.
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Re: If we went back to the old conditions. Who would dominate?

Del Potro would be one of the worst affected. The faster the court the less rhythmic his game is.

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Del Potro would be one of the worst affected. The faster the court the less rhythmic his game is.
im guessing you didnt watch usopen 2009
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Hard to tell but from top players i would say Nole and Rafa would be worse, because their game is about movements, deffense, long rallies, on faster surfaces like old grass and faster HC, indoor carpet they would be worse.
Murray is hard to tell, with his style it depends if he adapt- with faster surfaces it would be easy for guys hit through him, but the truth is also it can help him redirect pace and absorb it, even his return on faster surfaces could be more dangerous, also Andy when on has good serve and volleys. So by Andy it is hard to tell.
By Roger, he has good serve, volleys could play great on carpet, faster HC, old grass, but big hitter would more easily outhit him like Berdych, Delpo, Soderling, Tsonga did it in last 2 years.
Delpo and Soderling would have more problems with faster surfaces, because they need time for their big groundstrokes, also their volleys are horrible so they can´t even help themselfes with net game so play from baseline with powerfull FH-BH is harder when you have less time, so they would be in worse situation than on today´s slower surfaces
Slower clay- it would just help Nole and Rafa for total domination on clay, nobody would came close to them, maybe Ferrer would be better there too with his stamina, consistency and return.
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I thought the US Open was a terribly slow blue clay court? Or was it not before Rafa won it

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nothing would change, if anything delpo would dominate even more.
is that possible, though? have the upper boundaries of dominance not been reached by Del Potro? He's nearly in the top 10, and would be if it weren't for giants Almagro and Tipsarevic, for god's sake!
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Re: If we went back to the old conditions. Who would dominate?

I´ll go with Fed domination almost everywhere but Roland Garros. Something like years 2006 and 2007 with Nadal winning in Paris.

Also with some exceptions like Novak winning Australia or French, maybe US Open ? Sadly I can´t see player who could have a upper hand among these three.

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