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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

He can be both. When he knows that pushing will do, he often ends up taking the easy road and pushing. But he can be very offensive too.
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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

This year he's definitely been more of a defensive player.

When you look at him late 2007/early 2008 though that wasn't really the case.
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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

Top 10 from most attacking to defensive possibly:

1) Tsonga
2) Fish
3) Federer
4) Berdych
5) Djokovic
6) Tipsarevic
7) Almagro
8) Murray
9) Nadal
10)Ferrer

I could argue many orders. Overall would say Djokovic more a player who can attack, but whose game is based on a defensive foundation.

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Top 10 from most attacking to defensive)) possibly:

1) Tsonga
2) Fish
3) Federer
4) Berdych
5) Djokovic
6) Tipsarevic
7) Almagro
8) Murray
9) Nadal
10)Ferrer

I could argue many orders. Overall would say Djokovic more a player who can attack, but whose game is based on a defensive foundation.
thanks for letting me know Almagro is a top10. I was better off in the ignorance.
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thanks for letting me know Almagro is a top10. I was better off in the ignorance.
According to ATP (obviously faulty computer):

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

The current greatness league of active players in order of achievements to date (a factual comparison rather than fan biased assessment):

Federer 17 GS, 6 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.
Nadal 14 GS, 27 Master Series, 1 Olympic Gold.
Djokovic 9 GS, 4 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.


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According to ATP (obviously faulty computer):

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx
Yes sure. I didn't know. It's not good news
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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

He is a little bit like the 2008+ version of Nadal. An aggressive rallier. I agree with the assessment that he tries to hit through the person as opposed to around.

He plays an incredibly safe game, so you don't see many outright dtl winners (unless he plays himself into the position), but then again he hits his rally strokes with such fierceness and takes the ball well inside the court, so that you couldn't call it pushing either.

He does counterpunch a little when given a target, but its not the typical Lleyton Hewitt or Andy Murray style either. He almost never gives the opponent junk balls or offpace shots.
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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

He's more offensive in important matches (vs Nadal, Federer, Murray). On the other hand, vs Berdych, Tomic at Wimbledon - quite passive. He can be both.

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he is patient and he wants to attack, but waits for the moment, and his newly found stamina allows him this patience
Yup, this. Many times this year he would patiently wait for a good time to go offensive and hit a winner. And if somehow the ball still came back, he would "reset" it and wait for the next good chance, was especially evident in matches against Nadal I think. Being defensive, then switching to offense at the right time was probably the key. When he was too passive or hurrying to end the point (in most of matches after the injury), it usually didn't end up well for him

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He's more offensive in important matches (vs Nadal, Federer, Murray). He can be both.
I think against Nadal far more aggressive than against anyone else.

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more offensive (with better serve) in 2007/2008, but now combination of both with improved stamina. more aggressive against top players. too bad his Wilson groundstrokes are now just history.

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How was mentioned he is definetely more deffensive than before, but still wouldn´t call him deffensive player. It is interresting that he became more deffensive over the years and Rafa on other side is more offensive over the years. Nole in 07 was blasting winners, big hitting from both wings, also his serve i think was harder-faster, not better maybe but just hit it harder and then go for big FH, big BH, even to the net, far more agressive than 2011 version of him. But 2011 version is more deffensive, because is quicker, better movement, stamina, no healthy issues finally- gluten free and he matured mentally, also is more patient. But agree with other posters that he is playing more agressive against top guys. You wouldn´t see him playing total deffense against Roger or Rafa, he know it is suicide. Generally he is more deffensive than agressive, but in some matches he is more agressive and taking initiave and going for winners. I think he find the right balance between offense and deffense, he knows when to just retrieve the ball- but very good to the baseline and than when he got chance ha attack, FH, Bh right left, angles, on the rise and win that point. Great balance in rallies. I am not sure who said it that Novak is best in turning deffense into offense right now.
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more offensive (with better serve) in 2007/2008, but now combination of both with improved stamina. more aggressive against top players. too bad his Wilson groundstrokes are now just history.
Yes, he served remarkably well at that time which gave him more confidence to be aggressive on his service games. Those one-two, serve and FH combinations were his trademark back then.
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Top 10 from most attacking to defensive possibly:

1) Tsonga
2) Fish
3) Federer
4) Berdych
5) Djokovic
6) Tipsarevic
7) Almagro
8) Murray
9) Nadal
10)Ferrer

I could argue many orders. Overall would say Djokovic more a player who can attack, but whose game is based on a defensive foundation.
Disagree rather a lot
Mine:
1 Tsonga
2 Almagro
3 Federer
4 Tipsarevic
5 Berdych
6 Djokovic
7 Fish
8 Ferrer
9 Nadal
10 Murray

Every match Fish plays, he pushes more

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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

he started off as a more offensive-oriented baseliner, but that magic diet thingy changed his playing style and made Joker just so much more versatile...

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Re: Djokovic: Offensive or Defensive Player?

Nole is a classic defensive baseliner.
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