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Re: Was Laver´s 69 season best in open era?

Four majors in a year is still unmatched. It doesn't matter if three of those were played on grass because Laver had no control over that, what counts is that he won them. If, sometime in the future, one of the hardcourt majors was changed to a different surface, do we discount the achievements before the surface change?

As the article says, do you think Federer, Djokovic,, McEnroe, Connors and everyone else on the list would trade their best season for Laver's Calendar Grand Slam season? The answer would be yes.
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Absolutely, I don't even see why this would be a point of discussion.
The eventual, total achievements/results of any player in a given season is the only objective thing available to designate this, and a complete CYGS season goes above all other achievements. At least imho.

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Laver lost 16 matches.
In comparing best year ever this is just too many losses.


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No, because Laver played in an era of mugs with less surface variation. Nadal's 2010>Laver's '69
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No, because Laver played in an era of mugs with less surface variation. Nadal's 2010>Laver's '69
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Laver's era had all the surfaces.. It had Hard, Grass, Clay, Wood, I think carpet... He won on everything. He played all the top names as well.. Newcombe, Ashe, Rosewall, Pancho, even Borg and Connors later on. You name it, Laver played it
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No doubt. Winning the CYGS makes it the best season ever. I don't care if he lost all the other matches he played.

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Definitely... Laver showed just how hard it is to grab the calendar slam. 42 years later and no one has managed it. Pure domination. Sure it was only grass and clay, but Laver has a ton of other titles on Hard and wood etc.

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The reason why he managed to win the calender slam is because of the incredibly weak field. Same as why Sampras won so many Grand Slams. Although I have to admit that Sampras's competition was head and shoulders above Laver's.

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Some people need to get educated about tennis history. Can't compare what happened in Laver's time to the same conditions now.

3 Slams were played on grass, but there were tournaments on wood, clay, hardcourts. The surfaces play the same today besides the different movement. Can't have it both ways discounting Laver, while lauding Federer, Djokovic and Nadal winning 3 Slams a year.

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He lost too many times in probably the weakest era in professional tennis on record. So, even in relative terms, I say no way.
Eh? What makes you think that?

AJ is right, you can't compare such drastically different eras

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The reason why he managed to win the calender slam is because of the incredibly weak field. Same as why Sampras won so many Grand Slams. Although I have to admit that Sampras's competition was head and shoulders above Laver's.
Well one has to wonder how Pete would enjoy having 3 slams played on grass.. But I don't know. Tough to top a calendar season slams.. And Laver certainly didn't play tennis scrubs to get it either.

Laver dealt with a buttload of talent as I mentioned before (Ashe, Newcombe, Nastase, Borg, Pancho, Connors, and Rosewall).. I wouldn't call that field "weak" by any means. He played some of the all time greats to ever play the game. Plus he was banned from playing the majors in his prime and STILL won 11 slams. Had he played them, he probably has 20 slams.. Maybe more
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Absolutely YES.

Calendar Year Grand Slam. Hasn't been achieved since 1969, not even by someone like Fed. Enough said.

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The competition in 1969 was the highest since 1869. In 1869 they were just AWESOME.

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Absolutely YES.

Calendar Year Grand Slam. Hasn't been achieved since 1969, not even by someone like Fed. Enough said.
Olderer had to face Nadal on clay though.. If Laver had to face the Clay GOAT, he wouldn't have a calendar grand slam either.
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69' wasn't even in the Open Era.
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