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Spain. Now they are invincible. Once they were mugs.

Spain are really the greatest DC-team in 21st century so far. It's actually very funny how bad they were in the 90's.

I still remember their awful defeat in 1993. It's a classic in some ways. It was a first round match played in Barcelona on a very slow clay court against the Netherlands.

Sergi Bruguera lost a five setter on the opening day against Paul Haarhuis. That was already a huge surprise, but they regrouped and led 2-1 after the doubles. But the sunday singles were a disaster. First Carlos Costa lost to Paul Haarhuis after having a two set lead. And in the decider Bruguera lost again a five setter, this time against journeyman Mark Koevermans. And yes, Bruguera also had a two set lead. I was so stunned and still consider it as one of the most outrageous results in modern DC-history.

The 90's were throughout very disappointing for them. Back then Spain lost almost everytime they had to play away and they weren't that strong at home either.
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Re: Spain. Now they are invincible. Once they were mugs.

Didn't Bruguera go on to win Roland Garros that same year and the year after that (against another Spaniard)? How did he manage to lose those matches??

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Re: Spain. Now they are invincible. Once they were mugs.

Sweden made every DC final from 1983-89 won on all surfaces. It's cyclical, these things happen.

Spain had good players in the 90s, but Davis Cup is a different beast some love it, others turn to crap.

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They would have gotten pounded by the Americans in '95. Their claim to fame is beating clowns like Argentina consisting of guys who have the endurance and fitness of a Weight Watchers group. Delpo had a year long hiatus of nursing injuries and is way out of shape. Nalbandian is still dreaming of doughnuts etc.
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They would have gotten pounded by the Americans in '95. Their claim to fame is beating clowns like Argentina consisting of guys who have the endurance and fitness of a Weight Watchers group. Delpo had a year long hiatus of nursing injuries and is way out of shape. Nalbandian is still dreaming of doughnuts etc.
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Bruguera wasn't that good and Emilio Sanchez was nothing special. It was only after guys like Corretja, Costa and Moya started to take over that things started to change.

And of course the indoor courts in 90's were just so fast.

Obviously the American team from the mid-90's would have no chance against the current Spaniards in Spain and it might have been an interesting match-up back then on a clay court.
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I witnessed Spain-Netherlands tie in 1993 It's been one of the most memorable ties I've ever seen. Koevermans played a match of his life in the deciding rubber. If I remember well, Koevermans came back from a 1:4 deficit in the 4th set then, in the previous one Haarhuis saved a double match point against Carlos Costa


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^ It's really a nice story because 25-year-old Koevermans at the time, didn't win a match at the main level after that and soon retired, Bruguera a couple weeks later triumphed at Roland Garros

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Koevermans owned Bruguera, i think he won 6 out of 8 matches if i remeber correctly
And that win in DC was sooooooooo

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Sweden made every DC final from 1983-89 won on all surfaces. It's cyclical, these things happen.

Spain had good players in the 90s, but Davis Cup is a different beast some love it, others turn to crap.
It is probably more cyclical for teams like Sweden that have trouble finding multiple talents,but I think Spain is building a reputation for tennis and they'll probably get better players in the future even if Nadal does retire one day. They probably won't get like 4 titles within a decade type of thing like they did between 2000-2010, but I'm sure they'll continue winning titles till they reach 3rd in the World in Davis Cup trophies.
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That's why Serbia will absolutely dominate this decade.

Stick around to see it happen.
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Interesting that Brazil was the last country to beat Spain at home back in 1999, it will probably take a team containing the next great non-Spanish claycourter to do likewise.

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Spain has done well in DC, but tbh - beating clowns like Del Potro, Fatbandian and Mugnaco will leave a sour taste in their mouths. Is there ANYONE who can challenge Spain in DC?
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Spain has done well in DC, but tbh - beating clowns like Del Potro, Fatbandian and Mugnaco will leave a sour taste in their mouths. Is there ANYONE who can challenge Spain in DC?
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