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View Poll Results: What should federer improve during off season that would most help him for 2012 AO?
Movement/reflexes 5 5.62%
Endurance 7 7.87%
Mental Focus 48 53.93%
Backhand 7 7.87%
Return of Serve 14 15.73%
Needs to lose weight/gain muscle 2 2.25%
get rid of annacone 0 0%
get more aces on serve 6 6.74%
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post #31 of 71 (permalink) Old 11-27-2011, 01:49 PM
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I remember how fit andre agassi was when he was 32,33 let alone playing 3 five settters in a row at the open when he was 35. I think federer can improve his endurance. He probably needs to mix up his training. I think he has that pierra pagnani guy but it would be good to spend time with someone else or at least switch it up some.
This I'd agree with.

I saw him visibly tire in the 3rd and 4th sets of the USO SF vs. Djokovic.

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Great display of mental focus and not giving up after being so close to closing out the 2nd set for federer in the 3rd set. Will help him with a win like this for future matches for sure.


And damn federer was getting back multiple 134-137mph serves in that crucial break game in the 3rd. That's one area that will help him tons next year.
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Hope that Rafa, Andy and especially Novak are not 100%. Only way he could win. If Novak gets rested and healthy on that court, Federer can do whatever he wants, it will not matter.
More truth has never been spoken. of course Fed keeps winning the world tour finals every year. He sucks for the rest of the year while Nole and Rafa rack up the slams and tire themselves out.
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Focus and endurance.

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He just needs to work on closing out matches. He's riding on a 17 win streak now and the last lost he suffered so far, he held 2 match points! Problem with Federer, he's used to winning matches on a huge margin but when opponent gets too close for comfort, he mentally collapses. He just needs to be tough it out at pressure points and not keep letting match points get away from him.

With the game, there's really not much he can improve that won't require a time traveling machine. For a 30 year old he's as good as he can be, Nadal is still the only one who I will probably bet on 80-20 at grandslams for him. With Djokovic it's still 50-50 except maybe on AO where Djokovic has the edge.

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If he wants to have Agassi like success after thirty, he'll need an Agassi like fitness commitment- bigger up body, no little belly, stronger legs.

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Hope that Rafa, Andy and especially Novak are not 100%. Only way he could win. If Novak gets rested and healthy on that court, Federer can do whatever he wants, it will not matter.
pretty sad than nadal, djokovic and murray have to hope fed is not at 100% of his 30 year old piss poor shape, isn't it?
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This I'd agree with.

I saw him visibly tire in the 3rd and 4th sets of the USO SF vs. Djokovic.
I assume this was also an issue at Wimbledon 2011. Maybe Federer is finding the physical demands of the 5 set format too demanding which I suppose is not surprising considering how physical tennis is now. Both Nadal and Djokovic with 5/6 years in their favour over Federer both physically reached the end at the US Open final.

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Re: What does federer need to work on before AO 2012 to maximize slam chance?

Wanted to pick two, mainly: mental focus and endurance.
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Mental focus. Today was another proof.

Then, considering he's getting older, I would work on his backhand, because eventually he's no longer gonna be able to turn around to hit his forehand.

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The issue was the fact that Federer's endurance was exposed ONLY when Djokovic kept him in tons of 20-25 shot rallies and tons of deuce points.

Other then that, he can still win 5 setters as long as the points go by quick.

1. Cut down the rallies.
2. Avoid getting trapped in deuce.
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Concentrate, roger beats himself.

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More SLICE to kill the ball when on the defensive...(works with everyone except Nadal..) instead of shanking BH or overhitting them resulting with UE...He used to hit the slice so much more 06-08...stopped seeing that from 2009 -on.. just my opinion...
Movement has gone just a tiny bit down...as the reflexes...naturally..but when attacking it doesn't show as much...

London 2011. has me very positive once again..because the last time I've seen him playing so good (no shanking...negative UE ratio) SINCE AO 2010...when he played vintage style...so actually he's played the best in almost 2 years...hope it stays with him..

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nothing. He'll take the whole thing with desarming ease and will shut up the haters

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