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The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

We've seen a few 3-Slam seasons recently. But which one was really the best?
I say it's the player who accumulated the most points.

The ATP points double in 2009 (2000 for a Slam instead of 1000; 1000 for a Masters series instead of 500) so I adjusted Federer's total in 2006 and 2007 by doubling his point total.

Djokovic 2011: 13,475 (possibly up to 14,975 after the Masters)
Nadal 2010: 12,450
Federer 2007: 14,360
Federer 2006: 16,740

So Federer in 2006 had the best season, Djokovic in 2011 has a chance to take second if he wins the WTF in London, then 2007 Fed and finally 2010 Nadal.

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

I missed Fed 2004 who had 6,335 points x 2 = 12,670.

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

121st time this issue is discussed
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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

You missed something else... the points weren't just doubled.

It was 1000 points GS win, 700 points GS final, 450 points semi.

Now its 2000, 1200, 720.

So you can't just double Federer's points from 2006; you get more than it really was.

It would be better to actually take Fed's results from 2006 and just use the today's scoring system. However, I'm too lazy to do that now.

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

Thanks. Yeah, I did a quick adjustment, not good enough then. Has anyone actually done the math, as LawrenceofTennis seems to imply this has been done before?

Also wondering who's held the most points at a single time? Perhaps that's the most dominant tennis player.

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

No need to recalculate, it's obviously Nadal's

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

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Thanks. Yeah, I did a quick adjustment, not good enough then. Has anyone actually done the math, as LawrenceofTennis seems to imply this has been done before?

Also wondering who's held the most points at a single time? Perhaps that's the most dominant tennis player.
I've seen the comparison done across titles won, matches won/lost, but I can't remember seeing total points with adjustments made - but I may have missed that <shrug>



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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

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Also wondering who's held the most points at a single time?
Federer.

The interesting thing is whether you should calculate todays point in the old format or the old point in todays format because you don't get necessarily get the same results. It's a moot point though because I think Federer leads no matter how you calculate it.
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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

It's probably still Federer 2006. He's the only one who reached the final of the Slam he didn't win (French Open), plus he won the WTF and 4 Masters titles (IW / Miami / Canada / Madrid) and 2 finals (Monaco, Rome).

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

Also Nadal 2010 isn't really in the discussion. In fact I think Nadal's highest ever points total was just after Indian Wells '09.
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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

Federer 2006 is clearly #1. Then a case could be made for Federer 2007 season or Djokovic's 2011 season (pending the WTF). Then I'd place Federer's 2004 season over Nadal's 2010.

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

Nadal's is the weakest in 2010...worst competition ever....his US Open draw was a joke ....Novak was shit the entire year along with Murray and Fed...We had Ljubicic and Roddick winning IW and Miami and stuff........his Wimbledon was also a joke with Berdych who folded and Soderling and Jurgen in RG so no Rafa's 2010 was weak
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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

Novak 2011>>> all. 10-1 over Fedal. The most masters, 3 slams etc. Fed's 2006 is close but Nole's is more impressive when you factor in the Fedal h2h (Nadal in his prime, he was a few years prior to his prime in 2006), masters, and equal slam count. The only thing that could stop Nole was injuries.. Because no other player could.

2006 was a very dominant year for Fed but was a SHIT year in terms of competition. Roddick going downhill from a few years prior, Hewitt going downhill, Nadal still just a greenhorn and pretty crappy outside of clay etc. Crap like Davydenko, Ljubicic, Baghaditis, and the rest of the clowns hanging around. Safin and Nalbandian MIA

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Re: The best season? Fed, Nadal or Djoko?

Federer 2004/2006/2007 and probably the best with Djokovic 2011 next and Nadal 2010 in last. However, all are great years and none should be diminished that much by another, when it is a a tournament or two difference between them

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