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Is Murray's style of play the Nonslam factor?!

I have always thought about this. Either Andy loses to a hardhitter hot on the day along the way Cilic, Wawrinka, Berdych The Don etc. Or he struggles against top players like Fed, Nole and Nadal the first 2 more offensive aswell. Maybe his biggest chance is against Rafa on HC if he can play like in Tokyo for 5 sets. The mental aspect is a factor also maybe in Wimbledon mostly.

3 Finals and 0-9 in sets to more skilled offensive players with a solid def..

I can't help to think of Wozniacki aswell as comparison...

I don't like Murray that much but i am not trying to talk him down. I just can't see him winning more then 1-2 Slams tops if he is a little lucky and all clicks compared to the others ...

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Re: Is Murray's style of play the Nonslam factor?!

Well playing the way he does if he is to win a Grand Slam it's clear it'll not only depend on his level but also the other top guys'. Whereas with the likes of someone who plays like Federer generally he can win Grand Slams regardless of anyone else's.

Andy's game is more than good enough to win a few Grand Slams, but to win anything more than a few, even as a fan I don't really see it.
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yup, no forehand means no slam in this day and age.
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Re: Is Murray's style of play the Nonslam factor?!

I like Murray´s chances in Australia next year.

But, let´s imagine he can get into Melbourne final again. Against every top player he won´t be a favourite.

Roger Federer - Martin Klizan - Lukas Lacko - Milos Raonic - Fernando Verdasco

Dustin Brown - Nick Kyrgios - Norbert Gombos - Stanislas Wawrinka - Dominic Thiem
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Re: Is Murray's style of play the Nonslam factor?!

If that's the case, I'd say the hardhitter hot on the day style is the non-slam factor considering their lack of success in comparison to Murray. Unsure why he's the only one being scrutinized when other majorly talented players are doing far worse overall and in slams.

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Unsure why he's the only one being scrutinized when other majorly talented players are doing far worse overall and in slams.
Well, he is kinda unique there - 21 titles/8 Masters and 0 sets won in slam finals

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Murray has the big game although everybody forgot it. 2008 USO is the proof.
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Murray has the big game although everybody forgot it. 2008 USO is the proof.
and what was at that US Open 2008 that you all talk about....he got DESTROYED in the FINAL......he got lucky in the SF that Nadal was worn out
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and what was at that US Open 2008 that you all talk about....he got DESTROYED in the FINAL......he got lucky in the SF that Nadal was worn out
bullshit. he got beaten but he showed he has an attacking game. He wasn't experienced enough to compete with JesusFed back then.
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and what was at that US Open 2008 that you all talk about....he got DESTROYED in the FINAL......he got lucky in the SF that Nadal was worn out
He outplayed Nadal, fair and square, debate over Big 3 Gloryboy.

It isn't style of play as much as mental frailty, the world's top 2 have managed to get by playing brick wall tennis.

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He outplayed Nadal, fair and square, debate over Big 3 Gloryboy.

It isn't style of play as much as mental frailty, the world's top 2 have managed to get by playing brick wall tennis.
well Fed isnt playing brick wall tennis and still is beating his ass
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Well, he is kinda unique there - 21 titles/8 Masters and 0 sets won in slam finals
No need to spit the stats at me, I know all too much about his successes and failures over the 7 years I've followed him. But I take your point.

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Re: Is Murray's style of play the Nonslam factor?!

he has the game to win a slam but the problem really is his mental, he always had that issue if he continues to have that issue it will affect his game and he'll be downgraded into a useless defensive pusher instead of a offensive grinder
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he has the game to win a slam but the problem really is his mental, he always had that issue if he continues to have that issue it will affect his game and he'll be downgraded into a useless defensive pusher instead of a offensive grinder
I'm afraid you are right there The pressure seems to get to Murray more than the other top players

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I'm afraid you are right there The pressure seems to get to Murray more than the other top players
yes but dont wry, he will improve, he needs to believe that he can win big matches like the slams
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