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Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

Wouldn't it be fairer if there were only 3 slam titles (one clay, one grass, one hard)?

And back when Laver twice won 4 slams in the Calendar Year there were 3 slams on grass and one slam on clay.

Either the slam distribution becomes fair by taking away one of the hardcourt slams, leaving just 3 slams, or replace one of the hardcourt slams with a 2nd clay slam (because clay is the only surface never to have hosted multiple slams).
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Wouldn't it be fairer if there were only 3 slam titles (one clay, one grass, one hard)?

And back when Laver twice won 4 slams in the Calendar Year there were 3 slams on grass and one slam on clay.

Either the slam distribution becomes fair by taking away one of the hardcourt slams, leaving just 3 slams, or replace one of the hardcourt slams with a 2nd clay slam (because clay is the only surface never to have hosted multiple slams).
Nah, I reckon all 4 should be played on clay just for your little Nadal boy.

Oh, except Djokovic might still be able to beat him.
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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

there is also no carpet slam and no indoor slam... the current system is okay I think.

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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

i would love to see us open switched to green clay again......green clay plays faster and is a lot more easier on the body compared to the brutal hardcourts inside arthur ashe stadium and other stadiums in the USTA tennis center......
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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

all four surfaces are different and especially weather condition at US and Aussy Open
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Nah, I reckon all 4 should be played on clay just for your little Nadal boy.

Oh, except Djokovic might still be able to beat him.
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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

To make it more balanced, they could switch one of the hc slams to indoor carpet. Not that I think it will happen.

Anyway it would be much more fun with greater variety between the surfaces again. The surface equalisation must be a big contributing factor to the fact that every season since 2004 has involved one player winning 2+ slams, and 4 of those with 3 slam wins (then I don't even take into account final apperances).


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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

I always thought it should have been:
Slow clay
fast, slick grass
medium hardcourt
lightning fast carpet
for the slams.. and it should NEVER be changed

I don't agree with two hardcourt slams.. There is too much hardcourt tennis as it is throughout the year. Thus winning the career slam or a calendar slam EXTREMELY difficult and making it the ultimate prize in tennis. Now.. Its not so prestigous at all anymore. They had it pretty close to perfect in the 90s.. With the exception of the two hardcourt slams. Carpet should have been the USO IMO.

This helps offset the development of future-ama racket technology with sweetpots on the strings the size of Serena Williams' arse.

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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

Yup, there definitely should be a super fast carpet slam instead of one of the HC's
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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

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I always thought it should have been:
Slow clay
fast, slick grass
medium hardcourt
lightning fast carpet
for the slams.. and it should NEVER be changed

I don't agree with two hardcourt slams.. There is too much hardcourt tennis as it is throughout the year. Thus winning the career slam or a calendar slam EXTREMELY difficult and making it the ultimate prize in tennis. Now.. Its not so prestigous at all anymore. They had it pretty close to perfect in the 90s.. With the exception of the two hardcourt slams. Carpet should have been the USO IMO.

This helps offset the development of future-ama racket technology with sweetpots on the strings the size of Serena Williams' arse.
It's supposed to be extremely difficult and the ultimate prize in tennis! Now it's nothing cause all the surfaces and games play the same.

Next June, don't be surprised if we're crowning a third Career GS winner in four years.

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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

Like I've said in the past, a Grand slam should be played on ice.

Would make MonfilsFanatic happy too.
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Yup, there definitely should be a super fast carpet slam instead of one of the HC's
If you can find a place that have enough courts to host the event. US Open used about 15 courts for completition in the first few days. You need to add more courts for practise.
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Re: Fair that 2 of the 4 slams are played on hardcourt? Unfairly skews slam records?

If there was a carpet slam nalbandian would be goat and nadal would never of completed the career slam. Pick your posion fan boys.

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all four surfaces are different and especially weather condition at US and Aussy Open
Is there a big speed difference between the Australian Open hardcourts and the US Open hardcourts? I don't think the different weather, which is random anyway, is enough to justify having two majors on one surface.
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Sometimes it feels like a very even tug of war competition between rafatards and noletards.
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