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There's nothing wrong with what Tsonga said. It's true that Novak is nowhere near the achievements of those 2 great players. Not yet.

But that excess of respect for Federer didn't help Tsonga on Sunday. Roger played really well. But Tsonga had his chances in the second set to even the match. He was serving like a god, winning 100% of the points on his first sere...Until it really mattered, then Tsonga fell to pieces, probably thinking about Roger's "aura". He can beat Federer, he has done in the past, but he couldn't do it when it mattered, to win his first Masters title at home.

I'm sure Tsonga knows that little Novak managed to beat Federer in a Masters Final, with the crowd against him, when he was barely 20 and Roger was at his peak (Rogers Cup, 2007). I bet Roger's "aura" didn't get in the way of Nole's game.
It never did (the aura thing). Djokovic has always been a very mature player. In 2007 he lead the first two tiebreaks against Federer, he lost the entire match on his racket. Of course back then, his serve was poor, so there was no surprise that Federer was going to win it. People can moan and groan about Federer losing at the Australian Open 2008, but Djokovic would have beat him in the long run because his serve wasn't as poor as the 2007 U.S. Open.
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Tsonga said in his pre match interview against djokovic that djokovic doesn't have the same aura as Fed or Nadal. He added that winning against him means less than winning against Fed or Nadal.
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in a homogenized era, nobody is sure of who's superior to who because everyone's executing the same game from the back......this situation could sometimes lead to lesser players thinking that they are no way inferior to better achievers......tsonga could very well be thinking that nobody executes drop volleys better than him and nobody rips forehands faster than him only when they go in of course......so some blame has to go for the homogenized era for such comments......
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There's nothing wrong with what Tsonga said. It's true that Novak is nowhere near the achievements of those 2 great players. Not yet.

But that excess of respect for Federer didn't help Tsonga on Sunday. Roger played really well. But Tsonga had his chances in the second set to even the match. He was serving like a god, winning 100% of the points on his first sere...Until it really mattered, then Tsonga fell to pieces, probably thinking about Roger's "aura". He can beat Federer, he has done in the past, but he couldn't do it when it mattered, to win his first Masters title at home.

I'm sure Tsonga knows that little Novak managed to beat Federer in a Masters Final, with the crowd against him, when he was barely 20 and Roger was at his peak (Rogers Cup, 2007). I bet Roger's "aura" didn't get in the way of Nole's game.
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There's nothing wrong with what Tsonga said. It's true that Novak is nowhere near the achievements of those 2 great players. Not yet.

But that excess of respect for Federer didn't help Tsonga on Sunday. Roger played really well. But Tsonga had his chances in the second set to even the match. He was serving like a god, winning 100% of the points on his first sere...Until it really mattered, then Tsonga fell to pieces, probably thinking about Roger's "aura". He can beat Federer, he has done in the past, but he couldn't do it when it mattered, to win his first Masters title at home.

I'm sure Tsonga knows that little Novak managed to beat Federer in a Masters Final, with the crowd against him, when he was barely 20 and Roger was at his peak (Rogers Cup, 2007). I bet Roger's "aura" didn't get in the way of Nole's game.
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tsonga doesnt need this in his life.

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In that case, no big deal losing to Roger, then. He lost, bu he got praised for his efforts by the goat himself. I'm sure he's happy. Now, it it had been Nole...

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We could improve this thread by editing the title to
- Tsonga: "winning against Djokovic means less than winning against Federer or Nadal ... oh, btw, Pete Sampras was an overrated servebot and Murray will never win a Slam".

That would be a much better thread title IMO. Then you could bring all the tards into a collective frenzy or something. Would be fun.

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*dead*

In that case, no big deal losing to Roger, then. He lost, bu he got praised for his efforts by the goat himself. I'm sure he's happy. Now, it it had been Nole...
do you think an injury free djokovic would have beaten federer in paris?

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do you think an injury free djokovic would have beaten federer in paris?
fully fit?yes he would have had a great chance...cant claim 100%
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Slower conditions would favor Federer obviously. On top of that the motivation factor and anger of his U.S. Open loss. But yeah probably a 50/50 if he were healthy.
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The greatest philosophical question in tennis today is what would happen if a fully fit Nadal plays a fully fit Nole. However, since there is no tie in tennis and one of them have to lose, in the universe we live in this scenario is impossible.

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Tsonga said in his pre match interview against djokovic (not knowing yet that djokovic would retire) that djokovic doesn't have the same aura as Fed or Nadal. He added that winning against him means less than winning against Fed or Nadal.

the interview in french: http://www.20minutes.fr/article/8214...-nadal-federer

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do you think an injury free djokovic would have beaten federer in paris?
A full fit Nole?
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The only time Djokovic lost this year against Federer being full fit was at the Roland Garros but there Federer played one of his best matches in the last 2 years
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