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Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

Berdych and Del-Potro are basically the same player.

Equal firepower, equal height, equal aggression, big flat hitters, big off both wings, maybe Del-Potro has even got the edge in movement - which should make him even more likely to own Murray.

So why doesn't he own Murray the way Berdych does?

Surely any big hitter should be able to own Murray like Berdych does?

Also, does Murray's recent loss to Berdych prove he is not going to be a legitimate slam threat in 2012?
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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

Berdych
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- Volleys better
- Returns better
- Moves better
- Deals with slices better
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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

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Berdych and Del-Potro are basically the same player.

Equal firepower, equal height, equal aggression, big flat hitters, big off both wings, maybe Del-Potro has even got the edge in movement - which should make him even more likely to own Murray.

So why doesn't he own Murray the way Berdych does?

Surely any big hitter should be able to own Murray like Berdych does?

Also, does Murray's recent loss to Berdych prove he is not going to be a legitimate slam threat in 2012?
It's a myth that Del Potro plays like Berdych. Yes they can both hit the ball hard but Berdych likes to paint the lines and go for the corners. Del Potro likes to play with more margins

Berdych is more similar to Soderling. When they are at their best they own every pushing player
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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

Del Potro has played a couple of matches where he has been extremly tired and almost beat Murray. Had not been the case of tiredness and he would have won.. Miami and Canadian Open 2009 for instance.

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Del Potro has played a couple of matches where he has been extremly tired and almost beat Murray. Had not been the case of tiredness and he would have won.. Miami and Canadian Open 2009 for instance.
oh, cool, so their h2h basically has a big asterisk over it.

I thought there was something strange there.
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oh, cool, so their h2h basically has a big asterisk over it.

I thought there was something strange there.
Nope. Murray owns Del Potro because he is a better player. It's that simple.
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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

Situational issue. Murray would more than likely take Berdych down more often than not if they played more often. Like he does with DelPo. As it is, it feels like he is a really bad match up. Which he isn't.

Also, DelPo fails to impress in most tournaments he plays..

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Berdych and Del-Potro are basically the same player.
No.
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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

d pot has the game to beat murray......he ran him close a few times if i remember correctly.....we just need to wait a little longer and see what d pot can offer next year......

that said i think berdych employs a slightly more riskier game and whenever the risk pays off, you will usually end up beating anybody, not just murray......
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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

Berdych has beaten Murray once on Clay and once on Hardcourts(a very close 3 setter) in 5 years. Murray and Berdych each won a match as a teenagers a long time ago. Owning Murray? Hardly. But then again, this is a troll thread, like everyone Rodre Fedaggassi has ever posted.

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Re: Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

Berdych and Del Potro aren't overly similar. Del Potro isn't really that type of player, although people are continuously blinded by the hot streak he went on in the summer of 2009, specifically the Nadal USO match. Del Potro isn't a overwhelmingly forceful offensive player. He's not that great as an attacking player. Berdych, however, is a pure attacking player, and those are the types of players that give Murray trouble.
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Berdych and Del Potro aren't overly similar. Del Potro isn't really that type of player, although people are continuously blinded by the hot streak he went on in the summer of 2009, specifically the Nadal USO match. Del Potro isn't a overwhelmingly forceful offensive player. He's not that great as an attacking player. Berdych, however, is a pure attacking player, and those are the types of players that give Murray trouble.
What about Tsonga? Murray has the same H2H against him that he does against Del Po- is he not an attacking player either?

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Berdych
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- Returns better
- Moves better
- Deals with slices better

Anything that Del Potro does better or is he just a mug?


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Nope. Murray owns Del Potro because he is a better player. It's that simple.

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Why doesn't Del-Potro own Murray like Berdych does?

but

Why Berdych doesn't win a slam like Del-Potro does?


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