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post #1 of 42 (permalink) Old 10-10-2011, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

What do you think from all players when you see Nole is Murray the one with most similar gamestyle? I think only bigger differenc eis than Nole is agressive baseliner and Murray deffensive- but in matches when he is playing agressive he is very similar to Nole. I mean overall without that agressive-deffensive categorization - both have super ROS, good FH, best BH-s in game, above average serve for top players, great footwork, speed, deffense, passing shots, good stamina, they both are among players that used drop shots a lot, so really a lot of similarities in their game what do you think. What do you think is there somebody with even more similar game to Nole than Murray?
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Yeah, true. Andy is maybe the only player who can play the Djokovic game on a very high level (watch the the last 2 sets of Tokyo's final this year). Andy played like Djoker V.2 in the last 2 sets. His main issue is just a mental issue imo and that's what makes him very inconsistent and not confindent enough in his game in the slams.


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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

tipsarevic has more similar game to nole than murray.

murray can play offence like djokovic for a set and a half, after that he crumbles cause thats not his game.

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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Tipsarevic. He has a great backhand, very good forehand, great serve for someone of his height, solid off the ground and fairly fast. He is of course not on Nole-Murray level when he plays decent but he can be at that level when he is really ON.

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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Davydenko have the most similar game to Nole but Davydenko is more aggressive
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Murray has much more of a default preference towards switching pace, Djokovic likes a rhythm (and indeed you can screw with his game by not giving him it, see Dolgopolov match at US Open, or Tomic at Wimbledon).

Obviously they're similar in height and court coverage, and Djokovic this year is more defensive than he used to be (or at least more patient), because he's got InfiniteStamina and can simply wear down and outlast any opponent physically in the rally .... even Nadal.

Major differnece is Djokovic has more ability to hit with pace on the full stretch though, which makes him very hard to attack - opponent hits big, the ball comes back with depth, angle and pace. Murray on the stretch has better passing shots, but if the opponent stays on the baseline he's often going to just get the ball punted back in play.

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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

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murray can play offence like djokovic for a set and a half, after that he crumbles cause thats not his game.
depends on how he chooses to react to what is happening to him.

here, for instance, he chooses to employ a heavy s&v style.
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

murray is a better tactiurn, usually plays smarter aswell- the most balanced player- sometimes too defensive

nole is a genetic superman- awesome groundstrokes- awesome serve- awesome return of serve- mental giant (right now)

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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

I think they are different. Maybe not that much, but still. The major difference is that Novak has a much better FH than Andy. I think that Murray is a very intelligent player but unless he improves his FH he'll get nowhere. I keep saying this again and again.
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

They are broadly similar, as they aren't bashers like Berdych/Tsonga/Del Po, and have a lot more offensive capabilities than Monfils or the lesser Spanish retrievers. Nadal's style is fairly unique, as is Fed's(barring Dimitrov's emulation).
Murray has the odd combo of having a better serve and volley but more comfortable with defense/counterpunching. Djokovic is more of an aggressive baseliner, but his flexibility helps him both with retrieving and at the net.

But yeah, they are both backhand oriented pusher/basher/retriever superhybrids of the future.

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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

a little bit but who cares, they are different players and there really is little point in mentioning that both are great from the baseline because all top players are

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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Nadal in recent times has been winning most of his points thanks to his aggressive forehand plays. In the past he use to defeat opponents off both ends, but the backhand has staggered a bit.
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Murrays forehand isn't nearly as good, nor is he nearly as consistent. Djokovic is like Davydenko a bit, just not as extreme. Murray has much better feel and variety. Djokovic has much more consistently deep groundstrokes and hugs the baseline better. Murray mixes it up far more.
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Makes it sound like the latter part of Murrays last match vs Nadal was how he normally plays. Murray didn't even play like Murray in that deciding set. So no not really.

On the other hand Nole himself has become more of a counter player that likes to rely on great movement and fitness and Murray seems to become more aggressive so if they meet halfway they will be similar for a while.

Better to look at their entire careers than 1-2 matches and then a big fat NO
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Re: Does Murray have most similar gamestyle to Nole?

Murray has one of the worst forehands where Djokovic has one of the best right now. But apart from that they are quite similar.
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