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View Poll Results: Which of these compulsory 1000 level events would you drop
05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.04%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.27%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 15 10.56%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.04%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.23%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.08%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 33.80%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 11.97%
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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

one simple change - one grass masters btwn fo and wimbledon i.e one more week gap and thereby automatically reducing any one clay

masters among the three (by rotation every year )..
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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

one simple change - one grass masters btwn fo and wimbledon i.e one more week gap and thereby automatically reducing any one clay

masters among the three (by rotation every year )..
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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

French Open should be held in London (and retain the name of course)

Wimbledon should be moved to Billings, Montana (and renamed "Billings" obviously).

US Open should be held in Bagdhad (and retain the name of course)

I would scrap the Australian Open altogether. Instead, I would substitute the Palestinian Open to be held in Jerusalem.

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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

Ideally there would be a Masters for each surface. One slow HC before AO, two on clay before RG, two on grass before Wimbledon, two medium fast before USO and two fast indoors.

Unfortunately the ATP/ITF are full of clowns and have killed carpet as a surface and would've killed grass if it hadn't been the surface of the most prestigious slam. Six HC masters, three on clay, one of which isn't even mandatory, clay events before IW, clay events after Wimbledon, two weeks and one slam of grass...the equality between surfaces is a joke and then the ATO wonders why players are constantly injured or exhausted by the time the Asian swing comes around, or why the top players often skip Bercy.

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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

yes they are. we need a grass masters event.

make the grass season a bit longer.

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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

I don't think the USO time is too close with Wimbledon, but Roland Garros and Wimbledon are too close. Therefore, if you move one, the others will obviously be moved.

My idea...

Yearly Schedule

Slow Hard Court -> Clay -> Grass -> Fast Hard Court/Carpet

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WK  Tournament

 1  2x250, Hopman Cup
 2  Dubai
 3  3x250
 4  Indian Wells
 5  3x250
 6  Memphis
 7  2x250, Davis Cup R1
 8  Miami
 9  3x250
10  Cincinnati
11  3x250
12  U.S. Open
13  U.S. Open

14  2x250, World Cup
15  Monte Carlo
16  3x250
17  Madrid
18  3x250
19  Barcelona
20  2x250, Davis Cup R1/QF
21  Roma
22  3x250
23  Hamburg
24  3x250
25  Roland Garros
26  Roland Garros

27  3x250
28  Beijing
29  3x250
30  Queens
31  3x250
32  Basel
33  3x250
34  Wimbledon
35  Wimbledon

36  2x250, Davis Cup QF/SF
37  Rotterdam
38  3x250
39  Montreal/Toronto
40  3x250
41  Paris
42  2x250, Davis Cup SF (if necessary)
43  Shanghai
44  3x250
45  Tokyo
46  3x250
47  Australian Open
48  Australian Open

49  Davis Cup Final
50
51
52  World Tour Final
Events

Required:

4 Grand Slams
7 Mandatory Masters
5 Additional

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Grand Slams - 128 draws - 2000 Points

Australian Open
Roland Garros
Wimbledon
U.S. Open

World Tour Final - RR - 1500 Points

Mandatory Masters - 96 draws - 1000 Points

Indian Wells
Miami
Madrid
Roma
Queens
Montreal/Toronto
Shanghai

Masters - 64 draws - 500 Points

Cincinnati
Paris
Monte-Carlo

Barcelona
Basel
Beijing
Dubai
Hamburg
Memphis
Rotterdam
Tokyo

Davis Cup, Paris, Monte-Carlo and Cincinnati Masters may replace penalty zeros
for Mandatory Masters at a maximum of 500 Points.

All 250 Events are worth maximum 250 Points with 32 draws.

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Titles   

DTT(D) : 2012 Nice & Eastbourne, Olympics Bronze, 2013 Indian Wells w/supertec
PAW    : 2012 Atlanta
Suicide: 2011 Barcelona*, 2012 U.S. Open*, WTF*, 2013 Gstaad, Winston-Salem*
TT(S)  : 2011 Szczecin CH, 2013 Miami & Stuttgart
TT(D)  : 2011 Eastbourne w/Blarghman, Pozoblanco CH w/MuriloBrasil, Genova CH w/ESimp, Szczecin CH w/Dexter,
         2012 Newport w/chowdaheads25, 2013 Memphis & Stuttgart w/Blarghman
FITD   : 2011 Kuala Lumpur, 2012 Kitzbühel, 2013/14 Monte Carlo
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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

The main problem with this is seasonal weather, so it is almost impossible to have an ideal schedule.
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Re: Do you think the French Open, Wimbledon & US Open are too close together?

Yes.
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Could we see a player strike in tennis?

Just read a short column in The New York Times site that Nadal has again complained about the busy calendar but he is now suggesting that if things do not change the players may force a change.

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CORDOBA, Spain (AP) — Rafael Nadal wants an immediate fix to overcrowded tennis calendar or players may examine tougher options to force a change.

Nadal beat Richard Gasquet 6-3, 6-0, 6-1 on Friday to put Spain ahead of France 1-0 in the Davis Cup semifinals, the match coming only four days after the second-ranked Spaniard lost to Novak Djokovic in the U.S. Open final.

Nadal has complained before about the overcrowded calendar. When asked if a strike would be possible, he said players may have to use "strong action" if necessary.

"We don't want to get there. We want to play. But if it's a fight about something that we think is fair, something would have to happen," Nadal said on Friday. "Sometimes the only way to make things happen is to choose strong action."


Nadal insisted an "evolution" in the calendar must be made or "we might get to a place where we might not want to be."

"They don't want to change anything," Nadal said. "You can't always just think about the personal benefit. It seems as if those in charge aren't aware."

The Davis Cup quarterfinals are played the week after Wimbledon while the semifinals are played the week following the U.S. Open.

While Nadal has been a vocal critic, the dates are also partly his doing.

Nadal was among 17 of the top 20 players who asked the International Tennis Federation, which organizes the Davis Cup, to alter the calendar in October 2006. The change was implemented at the start of the 2009 season.

In the letter, also signed by then-No. 1 Roger Federer and Andy Roddick, Nadal asked that Davis Cup play come in the week immediately following the Grand Slam events and not two weeks later as originally scheduled.

Spain teammate David Ferrer, who won his match against Gilles Simon to put Spain 2-0 in front, said the majority of players agreed with Nadal's perspective.

"We're not machines, we are at the limits of our physical ability," the fifth-ranked Ferrer said. "No doubt something has to change."
It seems that Nadal does have support, just like he had support when he complained about the US Open wet courts/schedule. So do you think that a player strike is possible in tennis, with such a large number of players? Would pressure from Nadal or the other top players cause a change? Could the big tournaments and the ATP ignore boycotts of tournaments?

The only irony here is that Nadal is partly brought this onto himself, which I wasn't aware of.

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Re: Could we see a player strike in tennis?

Nadal will probably boycott tournaments by electing not to attend them I guess.
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Well, that'll definitely help tennis so he can only achieve the opposite effect. Just play all of them and he'll damage viewing figures more.
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Re: Could we see a player strike in tennis?

Well there's a lot way to go before any strike - the players aren't even unionized.

But this article is just one more reference to the possibility that players might unionize. I know there were quite a few references to this during the US Open.

It makes sense to me that that would want to do that. Players in all of the other major sports here are unionized and that's given them a chance to have real input into the way their sport is run.
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Re: Could we see a player strike in tennis?

Only way Murray could win a Slam if top 50 go on strike
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Well, that'll definitely help tennis so he can only achieve the opposite effect. Just play all of them and he'll damage viewing figures more.
Well I don't think that's quite accurate. Nadal still has plenty of fans who want to see him in the tournaments... though I can't understand why.

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