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View Poll Results: Which of these compulsory 1000 level events would you drop
05.03.2012 - Hard - BNP Paribas Open, Indian Wells, USA 10 7.04%
23.03.2011 - Hard - Sony Ericsson Open, Miami, USA 16 11.27%
01.05.2011 - Clay - Mutua Madrid Open, Madrid, Spain 15 10.56%
08.05.2011 - Clay - Internazionali BNL d'Italia, Rome, Italy 10 7.04%
08.08.2011 - Hard - Rogers Cup, Montreal, Canada 6 4.23%
14.08.2011 - Hard - Western & Southern Open, Cincinnati, USA 20 14.08%
09.10.2011 - Hard - Shanghai Rolex Masters, Shanghai, China 48 33.80%
07.11.2011 - Hard - BNP Paribas Masters - Paris, France 17 11.97%
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Re: This should be the ATP calendar

I like a few rough concepts of people, especially the Masters in South America and the Masters on grass

With a new calendar, especially grass season should be extended and being put more value into it (like a ISG or Masters on grass).

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Optional clay tournies? Well the warm ups for RG are optionals.. and I'd love a grass season extension, but some HC events like Scottsdale should go.

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Optional clay tournies? Well the warm ups for RG are optionals.. and I'd love a grass season extension, but some HC events like Scottsdale should go.
All Masters series are required events. Under the current ranking system that is.
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Sure, I just meant Valencia, Casablanca etc are all optionals.

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Week 19- Newport, Liverpool (yeah go on bring ATP tennis here)
Week 20- TMS London
Week 21- TMS Halle
Week 22- s'hertogenbosch
week 23-24 Wimbledon
Brilliant!!
With anything only close to that, finally grass would get the respect by high category tournaments that this outstanding and exciting surface really deserves!

We have back-to-back Masters on hardcourt and clay, respectively. So giving grass more tournaments would be the first and most urgent change if I were in charge

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Well, I still don't believe the GS tournies will change dates. And I don't see the point in outlawing not leading up to RG clay-court tournies. Many fans prefer claycourt tennis, so without the smaller events we have now, perhaps they would only watch tennis 2 months a year.
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Many fans prefer claycourt tennis
Agreed but mainly due to the efforts of one person on here (maybe two or three) this opinion is the right one, and to like grass is wrong.

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I would be all for a TMS on grass. But which tournament can reasonably become a grass TMS (location and capacity to host a large tournament)? Also, perhaps moving one of the US Masters Series events elsewhere (but again, which one? and where? )
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Agreed but mainly due to the efforts of one person on here (maybe two or three) this opinion is the right one, and to like grass is wrong.
I think there are very differing opinions on that subject in here. I reckon most people in here are all-surface fans, albeit there's a large contingent of clay lovers(=me included ). And this is just a message board, you know.
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I think there are more clay fans than grass fans.

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I am not sarcastic at all. there is not much difference climate-wise between Death Valley and Indian Wells..Death Valley would just kill them a bit quicker, meaning it would torture them less.. I like them, I am sympathetic..

You know.. Sometimes people are arrogant.. Sometimes they are ignorant.. I can't tell you what's the case with you.. An average high temperature of Melbourne in January is mere 79F/26C, which is very nice and playable weather.. An average high temperature of July at Indian Wells is 107F/42C.. Do you even know what is it like?

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OK, fair enough. I admit that you seem to know more on this subject than me. To be honest I just assumed, because IW isn't far from LA, that the weather would be similar.
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Agreed but mainly due to the efforts of one person on here (maybe two or three) this opinion is the right one, and to like grass is wrong.
Could you please use toilet paper when you finish making these comments. It doesn't look good when it's running down your leg, it's easier that way.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Well, this won't happen, but anyway it seems people here are forgetting Davis Cup and other events.

There would have to be some structural changes but there will be a clear surface distinction as well for example.

- The season would start in the first week of Feb and finish in November.
- The first 4 weeks would be a lead in to the Aus Open with a TMS in the 3rd week, and then once the Aus Open in March is finished. That would be 6 weeks of hardcourt/Rebound Ace.

Then Davis Cup 1st round matches and after that the claycourt season begins in week 8 in South America with a clay TMS in Buenos Aires in Week 10 and finishes in week 19 at the end of the French Open, which is the third week of June. There will be no claycourt events at ATP level after that, this would mean that there would be a two break between the TMS events, and maybe some of the other tournaments could be moved to earlier dates or have two or maybe three of them in the off weeks.

Week 20 at the end of June the grasscourt season begins. Then for the whole month of July it's grasscourt tennis with a week 21 TMS grass event, then optional event and the last two weeks are for Wimbledon.

The start of August the DC quarters which is week 25, then after that it's the lead in for the US Open on the hardcourts with an Asian/North American hardcourt circuit before heading to North America for 2 TMS events and a warm up for the US Open which would be in week 31/32 the last weeks of September.

October would have the DC semis, then after that it would be much reduced indoor season which would last 4 weeks, from week 34/37 it would have Madrid and Paris in week 35 and 37 respectively, then the TMC and Davis Cup final.

The players would half of November, all of December and January free from tennis tournaments. It would provide clear transition from surfaces, gives a TMS to grass, while taking a way a hardcourt one, making sure there is at least a 2 week gap between TMS events.

It would mean shedding a few tournaments, but it would reduce the workload and 2,5 months is comparable to many other sports, though the players could train a lot smarter than many do now.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Cincinnati hot? Sure.. But humid? Not that much..
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