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Big Ego, necessary to be a great champion?

Everyone who doesn't like Federer justifies their dislike mostly by saying he's arrogant and has a huge ego.

Being a Fed supporter, I see that Nadal has very similar arrogance and ego level as Federer.


And, GET THIS, I don't mind it.
I don't care if they are arrogant or not.
I think they are both great persons, that only bring up their competitive and selfish nature only on court and in the moments right after the match, when they are still with their heads inside the match.

Because, tennis is an individual sport and one of the most competitive sports there can be. I think you really need a big ego to be a sustained champion for a long period of time.
Otherwise how are you going to believe in yourself with every stroke and movement and decision you're making on the court?

I don't think Roger and Rafa are arrogant. They both walked the walk, they both have the credentials to speak their minds, and more often than not, they are absolutely right. But saying the truth can sound as arrogant sometimes. But then, haven't you? How many times have you stopped yourself from saying what you really think in fear of sounding arrogant or with a huge ego?
Human beings have a competitive nature. Tennis players usually know better and leave that competitiveness on the court.

Outside of the court both Rafa and Roger and perfectly fine and seem like really swell guys. Nothing indicates that they bring that arrogance and ego from the court and onto their normal lives.


So do you think big egos on the sport are justified once you have won so much and everything there is?
Do you think big egos actually helps them keep on winning tournaments?

Personally I always thought Djokovic has been lacking that big ego to keep on winning slams after he won his first. As if he seemed to respect Roger and Rafa too much and gave them the spotlight. The DC win brought back that big ego.

Do you think having a big ego when playing the game is a negative thing?
Personally, I think it depends how you administrate it. I hate the big egos in the NBA, Cristiano Ronaldo, Mourinho, etc.
But the way tennis stars handle it is admirable, and I really cannot complain about anyone's ego, maybe just that time when Murray would stupidly show his biceps.


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Anybody who is truly great at their profession has a huge ego. It's a necessary part of being great and successful. Some just hide it better than others.
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Not a big ego so much as incredible self belief regardless of evidence to the contrary.

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Yes it is, Look some Ali videos and you see some HUGE ego (and mouth from the south). These boys are just apprentices with their egos, but all great champions have Big-Huge egos when they do their job and it is needed. In "normal" life they are often quite different.
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Don't think it's necessary, but it sure helps.

Having unlimited confidence and self-belief is what you need.


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Don't think it's necessary, but it sure helps.

Having unlimited confidence and self-belief is what you need.
That and some skill of course, having big ego without anything to back it up would be a major fail But that goes without saying I guess

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I see that Nadal has very similar arrogance and ego level as Federer.


I stopped reading after this.
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Yes it is, Look some Ali videos and you see some HUGE ego (and mouth from the south). These boys are just apprentices with their egos, but all great champions have Big-Huge egos when they do their job and it is needed. In "normal" life they are often quite different.
So having a big ego in sport should NOT be frowned upon?

When people hate a player like Rafa/Roger mostly due to their arrogance, are we agreeing that they do not value that a measure of arrogance is really helpful for becoming a great champion?
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So having a big ego in sport should NOT be frowned upon?

When people hate a player like Rafa/Roger mostly due to their arrogance, are we agreeing that arogance is really helpful for becoming a great champion?
If person and attitude is right, then big ego is ok. Ali had big ego but he was also entertaining and super charismatic, that is why it worked. Fed and Nad have big egos too, but entertaining and charismatic?...
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I stopped reading after this.
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But yeah some ego is needed for confidence and victories. No confidence no success.
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I think its pretty rare that someone makes it to the top and is surprised that they did.
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In an extremely competitive environment like top sport is, you won't get to the top without having a huge self-belief. Every top player has this self-belief. Unfortunately, some mistake it for 'arrogance' and a 'big ego'.

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Re: Big Ego, necessary to be a great champion?

I sort of agree. I don't care for Fed, but his ego is not the reason, he's actually entitled to think pretty damn highly of himself.

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I stopped reading after this.
Poor you. If Fed continues playing till 33 or so, you'll be close to dementia because of this obsession of yours with the "arrogance" you perceive he has. Why don't you just lose your stupid obsession and give yourself some room to breathe and grow?



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