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Question Is Rafa the greatest Grand Slam Final player in history?

(Rafa is on a major roll with the GS Finals, who else is comparable?)
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No, I'd say that the player who's won the most (16) of them is. You know, the one that at one point was in 16 of 17 consecutive finals.
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Re: Is Rafa the greatest Grand Slam Final player in history?

maybe the guy who won his first 7 finals?

Rafael "The Matador of Spin" Nadal
Roger “The Magician of Precision” Federer
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Re: Is Rafa the greatest Grand Slam Final player in history?

Roger won his first 12/14 slam finals. He lost 7 sets in the 12 victories.

Nadal is at 9/11 in slam finals right now. He's lost 8 sets in his 9 victories.
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i will say just say this and leave it for sensible souls to take their pick,

once he has 6 best of 5 sets matches under his belt and enters the final, he fights like there is no tomorrow with whatever he's got......that itself makes him the best fighter.......

if we look further, we will notice that he has a record of 9-2 in slam finals all by barely at 24 years of age......if we are still not convinced and look a little further we will note who he has had to overcome in 6 of those 9 final triumphs......

good luck even making a meaningful comparison here......
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Re: Is Rafa the greatest Grand Slam Final player in history?

It is impressing but I would not go that far. He mostly faced the same player. therefore the record is of limited value.
Once you have show that you can beat a certain player (Fed), only limited addional info is gained by repeating it.

Consider this. He would only play Fed for one year and go undefeated, would that show that he is the best player ever.

No.

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another waste of place thread
(Because my thread is just stating the obvious? Maybe)
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It is impressing but I would not go that far. He mostly faced the same player. therefore the record is of limited value.
Once you have show that you can beat a certain player (Fed), only limited addional info is gained by repeating it.

Consider this. He would only play Fed for one year and go undefeated, would that show that he is the best player ever.

No.
(How is beating the so-called GOAT a negative? You can't claim "match-up problem" because Federer has a better record vs Rafa than most top 10 players have vs Rafa. Federer also has a freakishly dominant record vs left-handers. Rafa is simply beating the very best player in majority of his GS Finals. And Rafa beat Djokovic at the US Open, Rafa's worst surface according to many, and Djokovic's best or 2nd best surface)
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Rafa is GOAT, no doubt! Bamos!
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But he lost 23 times against you.
's right. We have to also throw into the mix. But I do not think it is currently the decisive factor. But he has achieved in my opinion too much. Maybe this is crucial if I move him even closer after major victories. But 14 or 17 Grand Slam titles is a significant difference. At the present time there is no question that he must be the greater player than me.

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Re: Is Rafa the greatest Grand Slam Final player in history?

In the end Nadal hasn't "won" in the finals because of his style. It's Federer, Djokovic, Söderling, Berdych, Puerta that has lost to themselves in finals.

So thing is that when one of those players finds the way to play an error low game, like Djokovic has: Then Nadals final wins are over. When someone can handle topspin moonballs with both FH and BH they win when they play good always in their own hands. Djokovic can so if he is in the final on sunday he will win 100% if he reaches his normal level.
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