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Taken from a romanian newspaper:

Romanian bookmakers SuperBet found a tentative of fraude, after several betting tickets with the same matches were laid simoultaneosly at SuperBet agencies in Bucharest and Drobeta Turnu Severin (Romania).

The official SuperBet press release:
"Today, Advanced Betting System Inc. was the victim of a massive fraude tentative, by the fixing of some first round tennis matches from Rijeka Challenger. Here are the details:

9 first round matches were included on several tickets laid at the same time on SuperBet agencies in Bucharest and Drobeta Turnu Severin. The following matches were involved.


All the bets had a total amount of 1000 EURO, with a total winning sum of 147.000 EURO. All the tickets involved were canceled.

SuperBet has already informed the national tennis federations and ITF about this fraude."

As expected, the ticket would have been a winning one!
Guez - Brzezicki 6-1 6-1
Volandri - Dutra da Silva 6-4 6-2 (match from Prostejov Ch.)
Brose Bamberg - Artland 83-55 (German League Basketball)
A.Balazs - Julio Silva 6-1 6-2
Millot - Vagnozzi 2-6 4-6
Patience - Pedro Sousa 3-6 4-6
Prodon - Mesaros 4-6 6-2 5-6 ret. (Prodon retired when Mesaros was 2 pts away from winning!!!)
Devilder - Junqueira 1-6 2-6
Trujillo Soler - Gensse 6-3 6-3
Di Mauro - Zemlja 4-6 0-3 ret.
Another match involved, but not found on the ticket above is Zopp - Kellner 2 @ 1.98 (2-0 ret.)

Some interesting facts:
-- all the players selected won easily in 2 sets (not even a tiebreak!!!)
-- in the matches which were going bad, the player selected to win retired (Di Mauro, Prodon and Kellner)
-- in 6 / 10 matches there was a Frenchmen involved
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Prodon retired when Mesaros was 2 pts away from winning!!!
Absolutely disgusting. I hope he never plays ever again.
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Too bad for the players, they missed out on some nice easy money.
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SuperBet has already informed the national tennis federations and ITF about this fraude."

As expected, the ticket would have been a winning one!
Guez - Brzezicki 6-1 6-1
Volandri - Dutra da Silva 6-4 6-2 (match from Prostejov Ch.)
Brose Bamberg - Artland 83-55 (German League Basketball)
A.Balazs - Julio Silva 6-1 6-2
Millot - Vagnozzi 2-6 4-6
Patience - Pedro Sousa 3-6 4-6
Prodon - Mesaros 4-6 6-2 5-6 ret. (Prodon retired when Mesaros was 2 pts away from winning!!!)
Devilder - Junqueira 1-6 2-6
Trujillo Soler - Gensse 6-3 6-3
Di Mauro - Zemlja 4-6 0-3 ret.
Another match involved, but not found on the ticket above is Zopp - Kellner 2 @ 1.98 (2-0 ret.)

Some interesting facts:
-- all the players selected won easily in 2 sets (not even a tiebreak!!!)
-- in the matches which were going bad, the player selected to win retired (Di Mauro, Prodon and Kellner)
-- in 6 / 10 matches there was a Frenchmen involved


You got to wonder if the people behind the fixing are retarded. So dead obvious fixing in this case. Especially with the retirement when it's going badly and only a few minutes left anyway.

Also makes you wonder how much fixing that really goes on. Only the most retarded idiots (like in this case) get discovered. Makes you think if the entire Challenger tour is full of fixers and maybe even some winners on the challenger tour are doing progress in many tournaments because of fixing. That means lower quality even higher up in the rankings.

They should probably consider A) removing betting on challengers or B) increase the control and/or C) maybe even "bait" players with fake fixing and if they agree and do lose/retire without being injured then ban for life
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About the only way to fix for real money at the challenger level.

There are a lot of known dodgepots in that bunch.

Pretty freaking dim way to go about it.
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You got to wonder if the people behind the fixing are retarded. So dead obvious fixing in this case. Especially with the retirement when it's going badly and only a few minutes left anyway.

Also makes you wonder how much fixing that really goes on. Only the most retarded idiots (like in this case) get discovered. Makes you think if the entire Challenger tour is full of fixers and maybe even some winners on the challenger tour are doing progress in many tournaments because of fixing. That means lower quality even higher up in the rankings.

They should probably consider A) removing betting on challengers or B) increase the control and/or C) maybe even "bait" players with fake fixing and if they agree and do lose/retire without being injured then ban for life
There you go. Gotta make some sacrifices in the end.
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You got to wonder if the people behind the fixing are retarded. So dead obvious fixing in this case. Especially with the retirement when it's going badly and only a few minutes left anyway.

Also makes you wonder how much fixing that really goes on. Only the most retarded idiots (like in this case) get discovered. Makes you think if the entire Challenger tour is full of fixers and maybe even some winners on the challenger tour are doing progress in many tournaments because of fixing. That means lower quality even higher up in the rankings.

They should probably consider A) removing betting on challengers or B) increase the control and/or C) maybe even "bait" players with fake fixing and if they agree and do lose/retire without being injured then ban for life
no use. the money chain is too long. they scapegoat the occasional player, but rest assured that everyone has a piece of the action there... when it is discovered, naturally a few koellerers are picked out and then back to business
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Too bad for the players, they missed out on some nice easy money.
if the matches were indeed fixed, the players probably got their money, it was the gamblers who didn´t.
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if the matches were indeed fixed, the players probably got their money, it was the gamblers who didn´t.
Hmm, I'm not so sure about that.

I think they need the deal to capitalize in order for everybody to get their share in the end.
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Could these players be banned?
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This doesn't look good, the thing is there is no proof that all of them are involved, or really any of them, but extremely suspsious.

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Hmm, I'm not so sure about that.

I think they need the deal to capitalize in order for everybody to get their share in the end.
I´m not sure either, but I´d imagine the players want the money before they tank it. WHatever happens after that, is the risk the gamblers need to take. At least I wouldn´t tank a match only to be told " sorry mate, I couldn´t get the bet in, so no money for you, despite the risk you took". Not that I would tank under any circumstances, obviously...
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This doesn't look good, the thing is there is no proof that all of them are involved, or really any of them, but extremely suspsious.
The problem is that it´s not a single match, or two. So many suspicious matches means that the money the players received must be a lot, much more than they would have made even if they reached the final roudns of the tournament. If that kind of money is going around the challenger circuit, its only logical that the temptation will be too much for a lot of players. The situation is getting worse and worse, the ATP need to react, and do it quickly, or the challenger-circuit will have no credibility left soon. Banning Däni is not enough.
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Which other bookmakers accept bets winning EUR 150,000 on challengers? That seems like asking for trouble. I don't think even the biggest British bookies would accept such a bet even on ATP on Grand Slam matches. Edit: There were multiple tickets, but still a bit strange they didn't notice. It does strongly imply match fixing though.


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