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Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

Lets consider the builds of these players: Djokovic, Nadal, Federer, Murray, Del Potro.

They both seem to be getting a little bit slower, the question is, are they too heavy? Looking at the ATP website

Djokovic: 6'2" 80kg
Nadal: 6'1" 85kg
Federer 6'1" 85kg
Murray 6'3" 83kg
Del Potro 6'6" 84kg

In summary, despite being shorter, they weigh the most.

With the new generation, Murray, Djokovic, DelPo more attuned to "sports scientists", and other players like Roddick losing weight, is it time for Nadal and Federer to shed some weight, to gain better movement on court?

(Yes I'm aware that people will say muscle is more important, but the counter point is that Djokovic and DelPo are some of the biggest hitters on court today, weigh less, and are taller).
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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

Djokovic is too light?

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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

Federer has a healthy belly for a normal person, not so much for an athlete. Nadal needs his magic muscle power to play his tennis.

So, Federer could certanly lose some kilos, but he is probably too fond of Mirka's cooking and also most lazy of all top player ever since Safin retired.

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Nadal's weight hasn't changed since 2005 and he was already strappy back then. He definitely put up some kilograms on weight, I assume Nadal weights something about 90-92 kg at present.

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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

I think these numbers are inaccurate at best, or just un-updated. There's no freaking way Delpo is only 4 kg heavier than Djoko, in spite being 4 inches taller. Roger is taller than Rafa (not sure if Roger is listed as an inch too short or RAfa as an inch too tall, but there is a definite height difference there.
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Federer has a healthy belly for a normal person, not so much for an athlete. Nadal needs his magic muscle power to play his tennis.

So, Federer could certanly lose some kilos, but he is probably too fond of Mirka's cooking and also most lazy of all top player ever since Safin retired.
Roger has zero belly, he just doesn't have defined abs.
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I think these numbers are inaccurate at best, or just un-updated. There's no freaking way Delpo is only 4 kg heavier than Djoko, in spite being 4 inches taller. Roger is taller than Rafa (not sure if Roger is listed as an inch too short or RAfa as an inch too tall, but there is a definite height difference there.
Actually BBC commentators were saying something similar about DelPo being very very light, and why he is so successful for his height. For Example the ATP website has Isner at 6'9" at 111kg
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Asking Rafa to lose his famous ass to achieve a smaller weight would be a blasphemy like to ask me to lose my boobs

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Asking Rafa to lose his famous ass to achieve a smaller weight would be a blasphemy like to ask me to lose my boobs
Well, boobs are bad add on on tennis player.
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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

rafas famous ass is surely not helping him winning matches. Only gets his underwear stuck between those buttcheeks all the time delaying the game. Federer somehow seems taller than Rafa or it could be an optical illusion but yeah he could lose a little.

In the end weight doesn't say much. If it's muscle then the added power and pace in your shots help you to win. Soderling is 6'4 and 87kg-88kg somewhere and hits way harder than the top4 and even harder than Delpo. He is close to Isner numbers with his serve. So really a guy like Del Potro should add a little muscle if those numbers are correct. Maybe 2-3 extra kg could help him fulfill his true power potential. Especially with the serve
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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

Why would Delpo need to add a few founds, i think his serve is pretty quick and his movement good too?

The point is that both Federer and Nadal have no benefit of the extra kgs they have despite being shorter.
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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

the listed figures are meaningless.

i don't think fed could lose any more weight.

nadal has definitely shed a few kg over the years so I doubt he could afford to lose any more
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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

Well I was just saying if you are as tall as Del Potro it's definitely not a disadvantage to weigh around 88-90kg. The taller you are the more of your weight is locked into bones/organs etc too so they can never be as light as 6'1, 6'2 players anyway. In fact it could likely lead to injury if you for example "cheat" with certain muscle groups like the legs/back. Del Potro can never compete with quick footwork of a 6'1 guy. He needs to take full advantage of his height strength and power that Nadal/Fed can never get. You have to use your body type to full advantage and not try to be something you can't be.
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Re: Are Nadal and Federer too "heavy"?

It comes from choosing the Nalbandian diet over the gluten free diet.

The current greatness league of active players in order of achievements to date (a factual comparison rather than fan biased assessment):

Federer 17 GS, 6 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.
Nadal 14 GS, 27 Master Series, 1 Olympic Gold.
Djokovic 9 GS, 4 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.



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