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Why do foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

Is that in order to compensate the organizers that might get less crowd?
It can't possibly be a tax, because some player lose money an shouldn't be taxed at all.
That is the case now:
http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/2...nt%20Table.pdf

I think it's bad for the tour.

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

In that case many players wouldn't even afford to travel to the tournament in question, which would lead to a drop in the field quality, which might also reduce the attendance.
The players on this level need all the economical help they can get.

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

Yeah, those bastards are so swimming in money, shouldn't be paid at all

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

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to compensate the organizers that gets less crowd?
That is the case now:
http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/2...nt%20Table.pdf
Isn't that 30% deduction due to withholding of tax?

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

You don't have a rule for it, when Andy Murray played doubles in Bratislava challenger last year did he attract more or less spectators than Martin Klizan?

In Szczecin Koellerer's matches are more packed than any Pole's ties. Extra money for that?

And yes - there exists a tax rule which makes the money prize different.

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

Ok, so maybe I misinterpret the rule and it's relate to taxes.
Are you sure that foreign players don't get taxed twice as it currently stands?
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You don't have a rule for it, when Andy Murray played doubles in Bratislava challenger last year did he attract more or less spectators than Martin Klizan?
Are you sure you meant Andy Murray?? I only see his brother Jamie in the draw.
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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

lol I must have been drunk when I thought I saw Andy together with his brother in there. Or I might have skimmed some Polish sports website and they got it wrong and made me remember wrong

But this way or another, sometimes very good players get WCs to challengers and surely attract more crowd than the home players

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

What tax rule is this?

In the USA, only the upper echelons of earners ($100,000 annual income or so, not 100% sure) pay 30% in taxes or more.

Guys like this would pay either no taxes or a much lower figure than 30%.

Even though I am a USA citizen and this does not affect me, this is utter bullshit. I'd be pissed if I was a foreign player. Maybe the USTA is doing this to make the foreign players not want to play USA futures and challengers in order to promote more American players? I say, as an American citizen, tough shit. If the American players can't win, they don't deserve to be in the main draw.

Either way, fucking stupid decision by the USTA but what else is new?

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

Futures I understand. Most players don't make any sort of living off Futures events (prize money is just way too low) and usually Futures are for players to improve their ranking so they can move up to bigger events. A country should want most of their own players in their Futures events. But Challengers are right below the main tour, players come from worldwide for Challengers events, and most players ranked 75-300 make a good portion of their livelihood off of Challengers. If the 30% deduction is not some tax thing then I would be very upset about it existing in Challengers, but Futures I understand.

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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

Can we pay Nadull less money because he puts the crowd to sleep? Or does the crowd physically have to leave the stadium to count
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Re: Why do foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

I've been rethinking and it can't be a tax thing...
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Re: Why do foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

Can anyone confirm this?
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Re: Should foreign players get less money in Futures and Challengers?

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Can we pay Nadull less money because he puts the crowd to sleep? Or does the crowd physically have to leave the stadium to count
Why not? He'd still make more in a week than you in your whole life.
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