Will there be another Roger Federer? - Page 18 - MensTennisForums.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #256 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 07:27 AM
Registered User
 
EddieNero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 51
Posts: 3,541
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Yes, If one of his daughter's delivers a boy and names him Roger.
EddieNero is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #257 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 07:53 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Age: 25
Posts: 629
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

That Dimitrov kid is fun to watch.
venky91 is offline  
post #258 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 02:25 PM
Registered User
 
juan27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Age: 28
Posts: 3,139
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetSampras View Post
2004-2006 was a complete TRASH mug era consisting of baby Nadal who had not yet even prime until 08 as a legit all surface threat, Mugs like Roddick, Davydenko, Blake, Ljubicic, Baghaditis, Gonzales... Old Broken down sciatica-riddened Agassi needing corizone shots after every match yet still reaching slam finals when he wouldn't even had come close in a legit era like the 80s or early-mid 90s.. Or Slam-no show Nalbandian or Show up once every 5 years Safin.

Its no wonder Fed dominated to such degree. It was a perfect time to dominate. We see when there are legimitate talents on top now though. Fed can't nor would he ever have dominated the slams to such a degree. .. Unlike during that mug era
mug era is when your principal opponent was out of tennis for 2 years and his mind was not 100% totally in tennis , agassi interested 100% in tennis when he was more old , in sampras`s peak years he faced mug competition too without agassi out of top 100.

baby nadal won titles in indoor and outdoor hard too......maybe the opposition in hard courts were more stronger than the patetic opposition now ( with the expetion of nole and federer)
juan27 is offline  
post #259 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 03:08 PM
Mateja Seppieva
 
Mateya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Seppi's comfy hotel room
Age: 31
Posts: 8,062
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Yes, my kid will be the next GOAT like Roger Federer!

Still waiting for the right man and his genetic material, though.


EDIT: what an epic 4000th post.


Mateya's FAQ
: Yes, I'm a girl. Profile pic is me. I watch and play tennis since 13 (1997). I don't play ITFs anymore, I have a job now. MTF-> uncovering my naughty side since 2007.
http://www4.slikomat.com/13/0120/sc2-Mateja.jpg
Slovenia's finest: Grega Žemlja, Aljaž Bedene*, Blaž Kavčič; Anže Kopitar, Goran Dragič, Tina Maze, PETER PREVC
Umag
WTA tour: Association of screaming tennis players without variety and defensive skills.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mateya View Post
Kyrgios is an annoying mix of clown, punk and attention whore.
Mateya is offline  
post #260 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 04:22 PM
Registered User
 
SetSampras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 3,274
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by juan27 View Post
mug era is when your principal opponent was out of tennis for 2 years and his mind was not 100% totally in tennis , agassi interested 100% in tennis when he was more old , in sampras`s peak years he faced mug competition too without agassi out of top 100.

baby nadal won titles in indoor and outdoor hard too......maybe the opposition in hard courts were more stronger than the patetic opposition now ( with the expetion of nole and federer)
An Even MUGGIER era is when your main rival is still a baby and can only do anything on clay for mostly 4 years.. That is better then another instance where Andre was only MIA for 2 or 21/2 years. Andre could play on every surface and he and Pete met at every slam.

From 04-07, Nadal couldnt even reach a slam semis during Fed's domination period. Baby Nadal had to pick up the pace for Fed's true trash contemporaries since mugs like Roddick, Davydenko, Blake and the rest of the clowns could do nada. Geriatric Agassi has to pick up the pace for those clowns too. When its THEM who should have been standing up to Roger. So who had to take the responsibility? Pre Puberty Nadal, Hospice Andre.

So whats Muggier again?
SetSampras is offline  
post #261 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 04:24 PM
Registered User
 
Sophocles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Age: 42
Posts: 8,989
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetSampras View Post
An Even MUGGIER era is when your main rival is still a baby and can only do anything on clay for mostly 4 years.. That is better then another instance where Andre was only MIA for 2 or 21/2 years. Andre could play on every surface and he and Pete met at every slam.

From 04-07, Nadal couldnt even reach a slam semis during Fed's domination period. Baby Nadal had to pick up the pace for Fed's true trash contemporaries since mugs like Roddick, Davydenko, Blake and the rest of the clowns could do nada. Geriatric Agassi has to pick up the pace for those clowns too. When its THEM who should have been standing up to Roger. So who had to take the responsibility? Pre Puberty Nadal, Hospice Andre.

So whats Muggier again?
You clearly have no answer to fed4ever's total demolition of your case. Federer had to go through stiffer competition to win his slams than Sampras did. End of.

"There is no such thing as 'the world'." - Enoch Powell.
Sophocles is offline  
post #262 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 04:52 PM
Registered User
 
SetSampras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 3,274
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophocles View Post
You clearly have no answer to fed4ever's total demolition of your case. Federer had to go through stiffer competition to win his slams than Sampras did. End of.
I'll be waiting to hear who thinks for the first 4 years ( where Fed amassed his most slams 03-07) where this "stiffer" competition came from outside of Nadal on clay. Fedmug4ever's post is very biased, and not taken into very good context.
SetSampras is offline  
post #263 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 04:56 PM
Registered User
 
Shinoj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: My Flag
Posts: 4,255
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

If you are impying that Federer didnt have much competition who exactly did Sampras had?

Agassi,Courier were busy sorting themselves out. Krajicek was inconsistent. Edberg,becker were in their twilight. All he had was Goran,Cedric Pioline,Malavai Washington,Todd Martin and co.

Federer's competition >>>> Sampras's Competition .
Shinoj is online now  
post #264 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 04:57 PM
Registered User
 
Shirogane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: France
Posts: 3,183
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

hahaha you got owned, admit it.



David Goffin ♦ Roger Federer ♦ Mikhail Youzhny ♦ Dustin Brown ♦ Pierre-Hugues Herbert


Shirogane is offline  
post #265 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 04:59 PM
Registered User
 
SetSampras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 3,274
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shinoj View Post
If you are impying that Federer didnt have much competition who exactly did Sampras had?

Agassi,Courier were busy sorting themselves out. Krajicek was inconsistent. Edberg,becker were in their twilight. All he had was Goran,Cedric Pioline,Malavai Washington,Todd Martin and co.

Federer's competition >>>> Sampras's Competition .


And Agassi wasn't in his twilight? ROFL. Pure double standard federphile thinking. In fact, he was more older and broken down in the early 00's then Edberg was in the 90s ( who was number 2 in 1993) and Becker. Goran is the equivalent of Roddick.. Not as good on hardcourts, but much better on grass. Kraicjek was injjured most of his career, but when could beat anyone on grass as shown in 96. Id like to see WHO in the 00's reached that level on grass, Richard did in 96.. I'll be waiting.

Agassi sorting himself out.. But at least he could get beyond a hardcourt slam QF unlike Nadal. Courier>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Roddick all day every day
SetSampras is offline  
post #266 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Registered User
 
SetSampras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 3,274
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shirogane View Post
hahaha you got owned, admit it.
I didn't get owned by a damn thing
SetSampras is offline  
post #267 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 05:06 PM
Registered User
 
rickcastle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 934
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetSampras View Post
I didn't get owned by a damn thing
Yes you did. You say fed4ever is biased, then so are you. Truth is no one can objectively quantify the quality of an era. You can always put your own spin on things the way you want them to look like. You can say Sampras faced tougher competition and Federer fans can say he had tougher competition. But you're shit out of luck because you don't have any substantial way to prove your weak era business but 16 > 14 is pretty hard to disprove. Good luck with that.
rickcastle is offline  
post #268 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 05:07 PM
Registered User
 
Sophocles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Age: 42
Posts: 8,989
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetSampras View Post
I'll be waiting to hear who thinks for the first 4 years ( where Fed amassed his most slams 03-07) where this "stiffer" competition came from outside of Nadal on clay. Fedmug4ever's post is very biased, and not taken into very good context.
Sampras's competition looks good on paper because of the names, but in fact he beat fewer notable players to win slams when they were in the Top 10 (&, ergo, playing well) than Federer did. Check his post again.

"There is no such thing as 'the world'." - Enoch Powell.
Sophocles is offline  
post #269 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 05:10 PM
Registered User
 
SetSampras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Age: 32
Posts: 3,274
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rickcastle View Post
Yes you did. You say fed4ever is biased, then so are you. Truth is no one can objectively quantify the quality of an era. You can always put your own spin on things the way you want them to look like. You can say Sampras faced tougher competition and Federer fans can say he had tougher competition. But you're shit out of luck because you don't have any substantial way to prove your weak era business but 16 > 14 is pretty hard to disprove. Good luck with that.
I'm not biased.. I say it the way it is... Agassi from 92 or 93 on a threat EVERYWHERES. Nadal, either not around, just a pup on grass, and 0 SF hardcourt slam APPEARANCES as the main rival.. Agassi even though up and down was still more of a threat then that Nadal during that time period.. You can't dispute that at all.

Roddick>>> Goran on grass?? Don't make me laugh? Safin who shows up only in 2000 and 2005 to play slam tennis? Hewitt broken down after 2005.. Agassi geratric with a bad back showing how muggish the 00's is. Rafter in his prime more of a threat then A-MUG


People trying to say Pete plays old Edberg past his peak ( yet hes still #2 in the wold in the early 90s? Becker>>> ANY Roddick on grass. Baghaditis, Phillipousis, First time slam finals Gonzales are the equivalent of Pioline and others etc. I could go on.
SetSampras is offline  
post #270 of 332 (permalink) Old 12-01-2011, 05:14 PM
Registered User
 
rickcastle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 934
                     
Re: Will there be another Roger Federer?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SetSampras View Post
I'm not biased.. I say it the way it is...
No, you say it the way it is for you. You don't even bother to read fed4ever's posts. You keep throwing around names but as fed4ever has stated in his post, Sampras rarely beat those big names when they are in the top 10. As Sophocles said, it only looks good on paper. Just as I believed, no substantial proof that Sampras faced tougher competition except for your own self belief that he did.
rickcastle is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome