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Youngsters with all-court skills

A few paragraphs from an interesting article by MTF poster Henry Chinaski.
http://thebigtip.com.au/tennis/does-...l-court-tennis

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Despite their inexperience on the main tour, both Harrison and Raonic already look more comfortable in the forecourt than most of the top 20 and their willingness to get there hopefully reverses the recent trend that has seen little but one-dimensional baseliners emerge from the juniors.
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The most promising thing is that they aren’t alone. Grigor Dimitrov and Richard Berankis are other young players capable of playing all-court tennis, as is Alexandr Dolgopolov, still a top level rookie despite being 22 years old. Whether this means anything remains to be seen. It’s entirely possible that the aforementioned players will adapt their styles to the prevailing ethos of the tour and gradually ditch the variety from their games.

We’ve seen it happen to the likes of Richard Gasquet, Mario Ancic and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga before them but for the good of tennis let’s hope Harrison and co can maintain their all-court styles. Don’t get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with Djokovic, Del Potro et al. Their style is no less valid than any other but the beauty of tennis lies in variety, unique match-ups and clashes of style.
What do you think of these young stars' style of play? Do you think they will keep playing all-court tennis as they progress in their careers?

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Harrison and Raonic are the best up and comers and their games are very fun to watch. Dimitrov is very talented also, as is Dolgopolov. Both are very fun to watch too.

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Re: Youngsters with all-court skills

Krajinovic last year in Belgrade was stunning, every part of his game was awesome and his BH was simply the best I've seen of any of these youngsters, shame he hasn't really excelled though
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I've only seen Harrison, Raonic and Dolgopolev. Dolgo, however, I think is too old to be considered with these guys. Harrison has more of an "all court" game compared to Raonic. With a 150+mph serve, it is tough to list a guy as an all courter. His footwork needs some work as well.

Hopefully there will be some good youngsters coming up soon.
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Krajinovic last year in Belgrade was stunning, every part of his game was awesome and his BH was simply the best I've seen of any of these youngsters, shame he hasn't really excelled though
he's been injured for months

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Krajinovic last year in Belgrade was stunning, every part of his game was awesome and his BH was simply the best I've seen of any of these youngsters, shame he hasn't really excelled though
After that he was injured for most part of the season...pitty
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Henri Kontinen has a great offensive game but I fear that he might be too injury prone. Injured almost all the time, but when he's playing he's brilliant (won Harrison even when injured late last year in Helsinki).

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There's an often misconception to what all-court tennis means. Because nowadays all guys stay behind the baseline, everyone thinks that every player that moves sometimes to the net is an all-court player. Well it's not like that.

All court tennis does not mean baselining + s&v at times. It's much more complex.

Take for example Youzhny. He is the ultimate example of an all court player because he works every inch of that court with his shots aka point construction, and when needed, he steps into the forecourt and finishes the point off. That's all court tennis. Sure that doesn't mean you can't s&v and play droppers every two points and call yourself all-court player but I feel that many people today are misguided into believing that.

Btw Berankis is more of an all-court player than Raonic is. Serve has nothing to do with being an all-court player. He might be one of the most complete big servers we'll have but let's step away a little and not throw every accolades in the book at him. Yes he can volley, but that is not his trademark style, just a trick he has in the bag.

Harrison is indeed a good perpetuator of the style.
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Harrison ripping 2nd serve returns and closing the net, that is all court tennis.

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Harrison ripping 2nd serve returns and closing the net, that is all court tennis.
Ripping the return = not really, just a matter of ability (seeing the ball early) and perhaps, guts.

Choosing to close the point quickly rather than defend = yeah, pretty much one side of that style.
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Re: Youngsters with all-court skills

Raonic isn't an all court player to me. He's a baseliner. And he's not a great volleyer.
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if your forehand is powerful and accurate enough you don't need to come to the net.
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if your forehand is powerful and accurate enough you don't need to come to the net.
Is this your way of justifying Del Potro as an all-court player?...he's not. He's extremely one demential, doesn't even have a good serve. These new up-and-coming players are a refreshing to see, contrasting some of the players that just stand at the baseline and hit big forehands.
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Nice article.

As far as your question: "Do you think they will keep playing all-court tennis as they progress in their careers?" , I can only offer my opinion about Berankis as I don't think that I am qualified enough in tennis to make any statements about others that are mentioned.

I think Berankis will keep being an all-court player whether he is willing or not, because he doesn't really have a choice. He doesn't have one very strong weapon but is pretty solid in all aspects of the game (one could make an argument about serve, his serve has really been a problem recently), therefore he often HAS to outsmart his opponent by constructing the point in his favor if he wants to win. I don't see that changing, I think point construction will be an absolute key throughout his career.

I think maybe it's similar with Harrison, but as I said I am no expert
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