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All Time Rankings - Updated (Fereder no. 1)

As I promised, I'll now post the rankings from 1978 to 2010.
The methodology is the based on KRACH, plus the set factoring I presented here:
http://simtheworld.blogspot.com/2011...mportance.html
The rankings are made in a way, that the expectancy of sets won will be the same as the number of sets won in the real world, of course factored by importance.

Update:
I got a suggestion from LocoPorElTenis (thanks!) to factor the results by years, so when players are at their peak, their results will count more.
I've implemented that in the following way:
After each iteration I've ranked the years for each player by their (sets won)/(expected results) in the current rankings.
Then for each player I set a year factor, where the factor for the i-th best year was (average results of the i-th year/expectations for all players)^4.65.
Then each match was factored by the minimum factor for both players in that year.
I admit the rankings makes a lot more sense now.

Full details in:
http://simtheworld.blogspot.com/2011...gs-update.html

Here are the top 20:
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	Name	Ratings
1	Roger Federer	15740
2	Bjorn Borg	15554.06922
3	Rafael Nadal	14453.64331
4	Ivan Lendl	12515.61249
5	John McEnroe	12346.31073
6	Andre Agassi	11517.9761
7	Pete Sampras	11120.58706
8	Jimmy Connors	10552.42997
9	Boris Becker	9989.140947
10	Novak Djokovic	9839.656444
11	Stefan Edberg	9469.054288
12	Lleyton Hewitt	8529.975095
13	Andy Roddick	8386.351809
14	Andy Murray	8365.692677
15	Mats Wilander	7986.889212
16	Jim Courier	7439.320297
17	Juan Martin del Potro	6853.467182
18	Michael Stich	6845.329504
19	Michael Chang	6788.132475
20	David Nalbandian	6718.077676

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Re: Nadal is Statistically the Best Player Of All Time!!!

Djokovic, murray and roddick in the top 10??
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Re: Nadal is Statistically the Best Player Of All Time!!!

Tsonga is here and Safin is not?!
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Re: Nadal is Statistically the Best Player Of All Time!!!

Pandora's box has just been opened.
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Anything that says Murray is better than Connors I refuse to take even remotely seriously. In fact, nearly every player on that list is in an unworthy position. LOL Tsonga?
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Re: Nadal is Statistically the Best Player Of All Time!!!

anyone who says tsonga isn't the 15th best player of all time is obviously lying.

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You can make the numbers say anything, even that Tsonga is an all-time best () or Connors is greater than Federer () but you can't convince people that this is true
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Anything that says Murray is better than Connors I refuse to take even remotely seriously. In fact, nearly every player on that list is in an unworthy position. LOL Tsonga?
He is better, not more accomplished... Today's level is clearly better.
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I modified the new "set importance" rule you made for these rankings and created a "statistical importance" rule. According to this "statistical importance" rule, all the new stats you made up are total BS and completely irrelevant.
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Most pathetic assessment of tennis' top players I've ever seen.
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Nadal vs God gets deleted and then there is this gem.

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Re: Nadal is Statistically the Best Player Of All Time!!!

I created a new stat called "Serbian". After rigorous quantitative analysis, according to my findings only Djokovic, Troicki, and Tipsarevic fulfill the requirements, making them the 3 greatest players ever. This cannot be disputed. Their level is just too great, players from past generations just don't stack up.
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Djokovic better than Sampras?

Roddick better than Connors?

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