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DC: Ward def. Jaziri 3-6 6-3 3-6 6-3 8-6 (GB beat Tunisia 3-1)

Great to see the local boy see the nation across the finishing line, although it took a very hard fought match (as the scoreline indicates). All credit to Jaziri though - he was even up a break in the deciding set.

Are Great Britian's Davis Cup fortunes slowly reversing? One can hope, but Tunisia with all due respect were not the toughest test. They now need to win their next set of ties in the summer to get back into Group I, which should be achievable.
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Good fight, James!
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Re: DC: Ward def. Jaziri 3-6 6-3 3-6 6-3 8-6 (GB beat Tunisia 3-1)

Good experience for some of these players- this is why Murray has no business playing it at this moment in time.

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bad for the game.

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bad for the game.
How is this bad for the game?

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How is this bad for the game?

You are WRONG!
because britain's place in tennis should be that of a shy five year kid in a charlie sheen's whores party. or to put a more apt comparison given the sorry state of the ATP at the moment and the historical importance of britain when it comes to tennis, that of a top-notch clown working for the town's fogotten circus.

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Good experience for some of these players- this is why Murray has no business playing it at this moment in time.
Agreed. If nothing else they're learning how to win these sorts of tough matches.

When Murray plays it just results in them being overmatched by much better competition and ending up demoralised when the British somehow expect them to win anyway.

Part of the problem is that the British attitude to a lot of these players is that they would be solid top 50 players if only they'd sort themselves out/work harder/stop messing around waiting for LTA handouts etc etc.

Which is bollocks. They're not good enough. Simple.
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because britain's place in tennis should be that of a shy five year kid in a charlie sheen's whores party. or to put a more apt comparison given the sorry state of the ATP at the moment and the historical importance of britain when it comes to tennis, that of a top-notch clown working for the town's fogotten circus.
Britain, the Yanks and Australia are all heading for the tennis wilderness.

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because britain's place in tennis should be that of a shy five year kid in a charlie sheen's whores party. or to put a more apt comparison given the sorry state of the ATP at the moment and the historical importance of britain when it comes to tennis, that of a top-notch clown working for the town's fogotten circus.
Murray? Wimbledon?

Britain's place in tennis should be low, even though we have Wimbledon & Murray?

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Re: DC: Ward def. Jaziri 3-6 6-3 3-6 6-3 8-6 (GB beat Tunisia 3-1)

From what I have been reading about Jaziri this weekend, it seems that maybe he could be ranked a little higher. Credit to him for a brilliant fighting performance this weekend, and also to his partner in doubles yesterday (who I read played some good attacking tennis).

Nice that Ward was able to gut the match out, even though on paper he should have won easier. At least he'll get a bit of a confidence boost from this, and hopefully he can channel that into some better results over the next few months.
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Re: DC: Ward def. Jaziri 3-6 6-3 3-6 6-3 8-6 (GB beat Tunisia 3-1)

Luxembourg are up next for us, and that will be a July tie. The LTA won't be able to resist a grass court (Eastbourne) I suppose, despite the fact that Muller would thank us kindly for putting him on one. Muzza will be back in the team, so theoretically the surface wouldn't matter anyway. Besides, him staying on grass after Wimbledon would be better for his knees.

Hopefully we can win again, to reach a promotion play-off in September. Would also be nice for that to be a home tie.
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Agreed. If nothing else they're learning how to win these sorts of tough matches.

When Murray plays it just results in them being overmatched by much better competition and ending up demoralised when the British somehow expect them to win anyway.

Part of the problem is that the British attitude to a lot of these players is that they would be solid top 50 players if only they'd sort themselves out/work harder/stop messing around waiting for LTA handouts etc etc.

Which is bollocks. They're not good enough. Simple.
Yeah, you're right. The current crop simply aren't good enough. Baker is too light-weight; Boggo doesn't have the belief; Ward's game is too simplistic and unreliable.

However, it would benefit us to get back into Group I...there are a number of other squads with similar problems to ours (e.g. Israel, Finland), so with a lucky draw we might actually climb all the way back to World Group qualifying. As it is, the World Group itself has one or two weaker sides.

As I mentioned yesterday, we could really do with a stronger doubles team. The doubles 'specialists' are good players, individually, but lack that particular spark that really sets them apart from anyone else (e.g. scratch pairings of reasonable singles players).
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WOW BRITAIN HAS MURRAY!

That's surely a guarantee of tennis renaissance.
Atm Britain has Murray, which is better than having 99.99% of the other players on tour...
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and suddenly davis cup isn't that bad after all, eh?
I hate Davis Cup, it's pointless, but I still watch it. It's tennis, it has good matches and I want Britain to do well (I want Britain to do well in everything) even though I hate it....simple.

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