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Re: From JesusFed to Fedzniacki ..

Fedzniacki

Dependent on this no.1 without Grand Slam counting on what criteria? Career or 52 weeks

Even though Federer has no Grand Slam but no.1 in 52 weeks, he had won Grand Slam before.


Rios - 52-week system no.1 without Grand Slam, even Career no slam

Lendl - 52-week system no.1 without Grand Slam before US Open 1985

Connors - Year-end no. 1 in 1975, 1977 without Grand Slam

McEnroe - Year-end no. 1 in 1982 without Grand Slam

Vilas - 2 Slam (also 1 Slam runner-up) in 1977 but not no. 1 in 1977 (never no. 1 in Career)

Connors - 2 Slam in 1982 without Grand Slam
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Re: From JesusFed to Fedzniacki ..

After Fed's 30 years old, he wins

2011 : Basel 500, Paris 1000, ATP World Tours Final
2012 : Rotterdam 500, Doha 500, Indian Wells 1000, Madrid Blue Clay 1000, Wimbledon

Totally 8 titles, none of Them are Mickey Mouse 250!

1 Slam, 1 Year End Final, 3 Master Series, 3 500-points Tournament. Also 3 Slam semi-finals!

Idiot tennis-x critics says Federder no. 1 is just calculation, but how many 30+ guy won 8 titles within 52 weeks (may be more than 8)?

Federer's return to no. 1 is due to not only quantity but also quality titles!

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After Fed's 30 years old, he wins

2011 : Basel 500, Paris 1000, ATP World Tours Final
2012 : Rotterdam 500, Doha 500, Indian Wells 1000, Madrid Blue Clay 1000, Wimbledon

Totally 8 titles, none of Them are Mickey Mouse 250!

1 Slam, 1 Year End Final, 3 Master Series, 3 500-points Tournament. Also 3 Slam semi-finals!

Idiot tennis-x critics says Federder no. 1 is just calculation, but how many 30+ guy won 8 titles within 52 weeks (may be more than 8)?

Federer's return to no. 1 is due to not only quantity but also quality titles!
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Re: From JesusFed to Fedzniacki ..

Clowns of this forum coming up with the name Fedzniacki now have to eat their words. Their failures knows no limits. Neither does their shamelessness.
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After Fed's 30 years old, he wins

2011 : Basel 500, Paris 1000, ATP World Tours Final
2012 : Rotterdam 500, Doha 500, Indian Wells 1000, Madrid Blue Clay 1000, Wimbledon

Totally 8 titles, none of Them are Mickey Mouse 250!

1 Slam, 1 Year End Final, 3 Master Series, 3 500-points Tournament. Also 3 Slam semi-finals!

Idiot tennis-x critics says Federder no. 1 is just calculation, but how many 30+ guy won 8 titles within 52 weeks (may be more than 8)?

Federer's return to no. 1 is due to not only quantity but also quality titles!
True enough. It is exceedingly difficult to win titles past the age of 30, especially post 1990, i.e., the TMS era. The only 30 year-old + players to win 8+ titles in a 52 week span on the ATP circuit are Rod Laver, Arthur Ashe, Ken Rosewall, Andre Agassi, and Roger Federer.

In the TMS era (post 1990), only Agassi and Federer have done it. Agassi did it when he was 32-33 years old.

In fact, only Laver, Ashe, Connors, Agassi, Lendl have even won 8+ titles in total on the ATP circuit past the age of 30.

McEnroe (5), Nastase (6), Newcombe (4), and Sampras (1) all won fewer than 8 titles in aggregate (individually) after turning 30, with Sampras winning just 1.

These players didn't/haven't won any titles after turning 30 and some didn't even play in to their 30s (injuries, burnout, etc.): Edberg, Becker, Wilander, Muster, Chang, Rafter, Kafelnikov, Rios, Courier, Clerc, Hewitt, Noah, Ivanisevic, Solomon, Davydenko, Guga, Enqvist, Ramirez, Stich, Mecir, Corretja, Safin, and Rafter.

As is evident, it is very, very difficult to win titles past the age of 30, let alone 8 titles in less than 52 weeks, not to mention a slam, a WTF/TMC/ATP Final, and 3 1000 events.

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True enough. It is exceedingly difficult to win titles past the age of 30, especially post 1990, i.e., the TMS era. The only 30 year-old + players to win 8+ titles in a 52 week span on the ATP circuit are Rod Laver, Arthur Ashe, Andre Agassi, and Roger Federer.

In the TMS era (post 1990), only Agassi and Federer have done it. Agassi did it when he was 32-33 years old.

In fact, only Laver, Ashe, Connors, Agassi, Lendl have even won 8+ titles on the ATP circuit past the age of 30.

McEnroe (5), Nastase (6), Newcombe (4), and Sampras (1) all won fewer than 8 titles in aggregate after turning 30, with Sampras winning just 1.

These players didn't/haven't won any titles after turning 30 and some didn't even play in to their 30s (injuries, burnout, etc.): Edberg, Becker, Wilander, Muster, Chang, Rafter, Kafelnikov, Rios, Courier, Clerc, Hewitt, Noah, Ivanisevic, Solomon, Davydenko, Guga, Enqvist, Ramirez, Stich, Mecir, Corretja, Safin, and Rafter.

As is evident, it is very, very difficult to win titles past the age of 30, let alone 8 titles in less than 52 weeks, not to mention a slam, a WTF/TMC/ATP Final, and 3 1000 events.
Excellent post. Thanks for that info. Roger has had an incredible run since the USO. Prime Fed stuff almost. Unreal.
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Clowns of this forum coming up with the name Fedzniacki now have to eat their words. Their failures knows no limits. Neither does their shamelessness.

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I dont understand the whining from Rafatards and Fed haters on MTF regarding Fed's return to No: 1 since winning Wimbledone.

I mean didn't Nadal regain No: 1 by just winning FO 2010 , when Federer held 2 of the past 4 slams (WIm 2009, AO 2010) and 1 Final (USO 2009 - 2 points away in the 4th set). Where were these fed haters then ?

To be fair, Nadal backed up his No: 1 ranking by winning Wim 2010 and USO 2010 but at the moment he won FO 2010, the same questions that are being raised against Fed now could be raised against Nadal as well.



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True enough. It is exceedingly difficult to win titles past the age of 30, especially post 1990, i.e., the TMS era. The only 30 year-old + players to win 8+ titles in a 52 week span on the ATP circuit are Rod Laver, Arthur Ashe, Andre Agassi, and Roger Federer.

In the TMS era (post 1990), only Agassi and Federer have done it. Agassi did it when he was 32-33 years old.

In fact, only Laver, Ashe, Connors, Agassi, Lendl have even won 8+ titles in total on the ATP circuit past the age of 30.

McEnroe (5), Nastase (6), Newcombe (4), and Sampras (1) all won fewer than 8 titles in aggregate (individually) after turning 30, with Sampras winning just 1.

These players didn't/haven't won any titles after turning 30 and some didn't even play in to their 30s (injuries, burnout, etc.): Edberg, Becker, Wilander, Muster, Chang, Rafter, Kafelnikov, Rios, Courier, Clerc, Hewitt, Noah, Ivanisevic, Solomon, Davydenko, Guga, Enqvist, Ramirez, Stich, Mecir, Corretja, Safin, and Rafter.

As is evident, it is very, very difficult to win titles past the age of 30, let alone 8 titles in less than 52 weeks, not to mention a slam, a WTF/TMC/ATP Final, and 3 1000 events.

Yeah, let's see how many titles Rafa or Nole will win when they're thirty! Even the great Sampras only managed 1. Some people are too stupid to even realize what a great achievement this truly is. I mean 3 masters events, the ATP World Tour Final, a slam, and 3 500 ATP events at the age of 30 is unheard of.


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I will never tire of calling out over-opinionated posters...

Actually I probably will eventually tire because there are just so many of them!
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funny how all the Fed hatas like certinfy, SDG and topspin all banned

Fed has cracked them up this year
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Clowns of this forum coming up with the name Fedzniacki now have to eat their words. Their failures knows no limits. Neither does their shamelessness.
He's pretty consistent, so it was a real scenario. If Nole had lost in QF and Muzza had beaten Roger in the final ..

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Yeah, let's see how many titles Rafa or Nole will win when they're thirty! Even the great Sampras only managed 1. Some people are too stupid to even realize what a great achievement this truly is. I mean 3 masters events, the ATP World Tour Final, a slam, and 3 500 ATP events at the age of 30 is unheard of.


Don't be ridiculous. There are lots of other great players who won big titles being beyond 30. Nothing against Federer but he is not that special.

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Don't be ridiculous. There are lots of other great players who won big titles being beyond 30. Nothing against Federer but he is not that special.
Agassi's 3 slams past 30 and more weeks at number one make him the finest example of longevity plus success, but Fed ain't far behind.

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