If Murray loses another grand slam final here, do you think it will cut to the core? - MensTennisForums.com

View Poll Results: Will Murray struggle to bounce back if he loses another GS final?
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If Murray loses another grand slam final here, do you think it will cut to the core?

Whether it be Roger or Djokovic if he gets that far, its really irrelivant, if Murray loses another GS final I think it will totally destroy him to the point where he might be better of longer term not making it that far even though that sounds silly..I honestly feel if he gets over that hump he can win heaps, but if he fails again he might never do it..

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Hes going to have a tough final if he makes it through thats for sure. Djokovic if fit and well rested will be tough, Federer is always tough in GS finals.

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I think Murray will only really be mentally hit if he failed to win a Grand-slam and neither Federer or Nadal were in it.

Right now, Federer is still there, and he is favourite, there is no pressure on Murray.
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First of all, he needs to win Ferrer to reach the final. I don't think it will be so easy for him.
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Re: If Murray loses another grand slam final here, do you think it will cut to the co

Yes.

If it is Federer he probably could rationalise it as losing to the 16GS winner who obviously is better at winning GS finals than anybody else, but losing to Djokovic would hit him badly as that would be a match he could and possibly should win.
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If Murray fails to win when his draw is:

Beck -> Marchenko -> GGL -> Melzer -> Dolgopolov -> Ferrer -> Fed/Nole

It'll be pretty hilarious, and I'm sure it'll hurt him mentally.

He's pretty much waded through cakemix so far, just needs to blow out one candle at the end. Couldn't really ask for easier
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Re: If Murray loses another grand slam final here, do you think it will cut to the co

Its difficult to say. You don't become a bad player overnight and if he keeps making slam SFs and finals he will get chances to win.

Obviously the mental baggage makes it tougher each time, but if he gives himself the oppotunities theres no reason why he can't do it.

I think losing an AO final this year will totally devestate him, particularly if its against Novak, but he'll get over it eventually and move on. Lendl had 4 GS final losses befor he won one, its about perseverence and never losing faith in yourself.

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Actually there is Pressure on Murray. Federer isn't unbeatable like he use to be.

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I think Murray will only really be mentally hit if he failed to win a Grand-slam and neither Federer or Nadal were in it.

Right now, Federer is still there, and he is favourite, there is no pressure on Murray.
at present, players are defined by how they handle federer and nadal at slams. so far, murray has been woeful - with the exception of few easy wins over rafa, that a) he matches up very well against, b)was played on hard courts, and c)was not a 'peak rafa'.

add to that fed is in his 'autumn' faze, facing him in the finals will give no comfort to murrays state of mind. on the contrary, loosing 3 finals to fed (with 2 already being straight sets defeats) - is a major, major, blow for any aspiring top-top player.

if it happens, it may very well be a defining loss or win.

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If Murray fails to win when his draw is:

Beck -> Marchenko -> GGL -> Melzer -> Dolgopolov -> Ferrer -> Fed/Nole

It'll be pretty hilarious, and I'm sure it'll hurt him mentally.

He's pretty much waded through cakemix so far, just needs to blow out one candle at the end. Couldn't really ask for easier
Not sure cakemix as you say it is always a good thing. Novak had few situations where he came to SF with his eyes closed, only to drop out of there easily. Lack of strong competition could hurt him, so it will be interesting to see how he does against Ferrer

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there's pressure whatever ahppens...if he
  1. makes it to the final and lose to Roger people will say Roger's got the mental edge in slams over him
  1. make it to the final and lose to nole people say he can't take a shot with the 2 dominant players out
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Murray losing another GS final would be terrible for his belief that he will ever actually win one...
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Re: If Murray loses another grand slam final here, do you think it will cut to the co

Murray is not Lendl though..dont you dare compare him to that GOAT contender (yet)

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Lendl didn't lose his first 2 finals in straights. Neither did Agassi.

Murray did.
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I won't be surprised if he lost to Ferrer, and he will always have chance except RG in the next several years.


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