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Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

Why does Fed always get tough draws at the AO? He's had hard matches every single time.

This year its no different: Top 8 player in 2nd round, took him to five sets. Nadal plays against pussies all the way to QF at least.

Do hard matches early help players find their form, or does it weaken them for the rest of the tournament?
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Re: Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

Nalbandian got a former #1 in the 1st round.
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Re: Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

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Nalbandian got a former #1 in the 1st round.
another BS.

Are the draw makers smoking a bong while they come up with the draw?

Why would you put low ranks vs low ranks and good players vs good players in the early rounds?

That BS is beyond me.
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Re: Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

yah but simon was totally unfocused because he had become a father the night before. his mind was totally not in the game when he played nadull at the USO.

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Re: Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

very nice bulge from simon, but hewitt is the king
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Re: Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

well, i don't think he was focused at all tbh.

i seem to recall he said in press conference before the match that all he wanted was to go home or something to that extent

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"Unfair" draws

If you feel the need to complain about a draw, do it here, but keep it nice.

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If you feel the need to complain about a draw, do it here, but keep it nice.
why the fuck does my favorite player always get hard draws what is this shit you're a moderator do something about it raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaageeeeeee
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why the fuck does my favorite player always get hard draws what is this shit you're a moderator do something about it raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaageeeeeee
gee, take it easy, man, it's just a draw thread.

some times a player gets lucky with the draw and other times not so much. nadal clearly got lucky here

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Re: Fed got a former top 8 player in 2nd round?

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another BS.

Are the draw makers smoking a bong while they come up with the draw?

Why would you put low ranks vs low ranks and good players vs good players in the early rounds?

That BS is beyond me.
> randomly drawn from top to bottom of the draw by IBM computer technology.

http://www.australianopen.com/en_AU/...a_z_guide.html

IBM computer technology is way too lame to pull a bong.

It is true that a low-ranked player can get a lucky draw and play another low ranked player in the first round. That cannot happen after that. After that, the only way a low-ranked player can play a low-ranked player is if a low-ranked player beats a high-ranked player to make that happen.
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why the fuck does my favorite player always get hard draws what is this shit you're a moderator do something about it raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaageeeeeee

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Its not that Nadal gets easy draws, its that no one seems to play well against him

Being a fan of Roger Federer, even I have to admit some of his GS draws were not that difficult on paper. It wouldnt have mattered much though as I believe he was playing so out of his mind I doubt there was anyone who could have beaten him.

Its pointless to argue about easy draws anyway, its subjective what an easy draw is relative to the form said player is in. And it could hardly be blamed on the player anyway, he can only play whos infront of him, and if better players cant do the donkey work in early rounds to get through to meet him later on, thats not his fault, just like it wasnt Feds fault (but certainly his fortune!) that Nadal wasnt across from the net in the 09 French Open final.

But whats bugged me over the last year or so is that NO BODY seems to play out of their skin when they meet Nadal in a slam. I remember Federer in 07 for example. Phau played very well against him in the first round. Roddick had an exceptional tournament, played reasonable against Fed in the semi, but Fed was just ON FIRE. Gonzalez in the final was playing out of this world, he was truely the best player in the tournamet along with Fed in the final. People often talk of Rogers matches being won in the locker room, but I dont remember players bowing down for him, infact I remember players used to take it to him, play out of their skin, they really had nothing to lose.

The biggest test Rafa had last year was when Almagro and Garbageville took the first two sets to tiebreaks in the US Open and French Open. They are the only ones I think played "well" against Rafa. Sure Petzchner and Hasse took Rafa to five sets at Wimbledon, but they ruined their chances by playing doubles, the results of the matches were NID.

Everyone else was just a joke against him. The USO Semi was a joke, Rafas opponent might as well have handed the match to him, he didnt even look interested in making it a contest. Fernando Verdasco didnt even bother turning up. I dont believe Rafa played all that well at the French actually, he looked very shakey at times. Soderling was too tired in the final to put up any serious resistance. That seems to always be the way with Rafa, he gets lucky and meets an opponent who "could" blast him off the court but is always coming from a tough 5 set match or 2 and just cant put the fight up. People will say its not Rafas fault and fitness is a part of the game, but those same people will also use the tired excuse when someone beats Rafa also. Berdyctch is capable of giving Rafa a fight, and yet in the Wimbledon final he was PATHETIC by his standards. What a letdown that truely was. These players seem to be happy with their scalp of reaching the final and taking out Federer, they dont seem interested in taking it the one step further.

The only player with a good chance of beating Rafa is Roger. Hes the only one fit enough to come through a tournament and put up a fight in the final, regardless of how many sets he plays. And at 29 years of age, it doesnt say much about the depth of the game does it?

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Re: Its not that Nadal gets easy draws, its that no one seems to play well against hi

Do you understand tennis? It's because Rafa's relentless style of play wears an opponent down and forces them to play at a lower level and then he can destruct them easily.

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Re: Its not that Nadal gets easy draws, its that no one seems to play well against hi

Fact:

In USO he didn't play anybody in the top 10 till the final... (excluding verdasco the mug)
Federer: Played 2 players in the top 10, in Q and S.

In French Open he didn't play anybody within in the top 20 till the final.
Federer: Played a top 20 in Q and lost.
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So he played 2 top 10 players out of a possible 3 at the USO.

I guess Roddick and Murray would have taken him out at RG.

What about Wimbledon??
At Wimbledon he played Soderling, Murray and Bershit.

Which is actually a really good performance.
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