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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

Thanks for the translation once again, Or. Very interesting, as always.

Sad to hear the mental state Amir is in. Sounds like he needs a mentor or someone to help him think things through in a different way.
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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

I'm really pulling for this guy.

Thanks Or Levy for the translation
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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

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Thanks for the translation once again, Or. Very interesting, as always.

Sad to hear the mental state Amir is in. Sounds like he needs a mentor or someone to help him think things through in a different way.
Why do you sau "the mental state Amir is in"? Sounds to me that he took a perfectiy pragmatic decision not to play clay, especially since he is in no position to practice for it.

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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

Very interesting and heart-felt read, thanks Or Levy for posting!

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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

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Thanks for the translation once again, Or. Very interesting, as always.

Sad to hear the mental state Amir is in. Sounds like he needs a mentor or someone to help him think things through in a different way.
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Why do you sau "the mental state Amir is in"? Sounds to me that he took a perfectiy pragmatic decision not to play clay, especially since he is in no position to practice for it.

Good to get this update
i think gonzil is referring to the effect that the variable of 'point collecting' can have on performance... it is an undesirable variable that adds unneeded mental and often emotional pressure to the tour grind...

it is no secret that players perform better when they being bankrolled by a sponsor... they can find a cloudless, clarity of thought that aides focus on high performance alone without the spectre of not knowing safety in the near future... aka freedom, lack of fear

though, developing an ability to get past the worry, and being able to find that clarity and focus on performance alone will make you a stronger player mentally - it is just the scenic route, and potentially, a much longer road...

everyone is different, but having worked with someone at a level similar level to where amir is at now, de-clouding the mind was a matter of finding why the player was holding the racquet in the first place... ie; rediscovering the most simple thing - a pure love for the game thereby allowing competition to turn you on and not turn you off... rediscovering the simplest joy of feeling the ball upon the strings for that single fraction of a second, finding a way to enjoy the challenge posed...

i might be totally f**king wrong about what gonzil meant tho...
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i think gonzil is referring to the effect that the variable of 'point collecting' can have on performance... it is an undesirable variable that adds unneeded mental and often emotional pressure to the tour grind...

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i might be totally f**king wrong about what gonzil meant tho...
Yes, that is what I meant. I have no internal knowledge, but chasing after points just can't be the best way to go.

And here is Weintraub at a career high, but instead of enjoying it and deriving confidence from it, he is worrying about what will come in the next weeks.

I understand there are pragmatic considerations, but surely you are more likely to win matches when you are feeling good about what you are doing, than when you are worrying about what will happen to your points if you lose.

Anyway, I hope Amir finds the best way forward for him - I guess I am just one of many people rooting for him because of his blog.
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Yes, that is what I meant. I have no internal knowledge, but chasing after points just can't be the best way to go.

And here is Weintraub at a career high, but instead of enjoying it and deriving confidence from it, he is worrying about what will come in the next weeks.

I understand there are pragmatic considerations, but surely you are more likely to win matches when you are feeling good about what you are doing, than when you are worrying about what will happen to your points if you lose.

Anyway, I hope Amir finds the best way forward for him - I guess I am just one of many people rooting for him because of his blog.
ok - fast clay and your explanation makes sense, and yes, we certainly all hope the very best for Amir



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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

Thanks for the translation again!
Too bad Amir didn't play the Fergana challenger last week, which had a very weak field --> he would have been #4 seed! He might even have made an Israeli final against Dudi!
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Too bad Amir didn't play the Fergana challenger last week, which had a very weak field --> he would have been #4 seed! He might even have made an Israeli final against Dudi!
at least he won Israel F4 last week and is the top-seed again this week at F5
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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

BTW, some Amir updates, if anyone is interesting. He's currently looking for someone to share a hotel room (84 pounds per night) with him, as he made it to Wimby qualies. Really shows you how much those guys struggle.

I wonder why there isn't some kind of ITF/ATP message board, open only to players, in which they can post such things - I bet there are other qualifying players looking to share rooms.

And that's a new photo from his facebook, nice.



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Damn, he looks hot. Sorry for the shallow comment, I had to say it.



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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

He looks like Novak but more Israeli

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Well, Roland Garros is here already and you've probably noticed there are no Israeli players in the men singles competition , not even in qualies. The real reason? A little unpleasant to admit, but clay just isn't for us. Dudi decided to skip the entire clay season, and clay and I aren't exactly a love story, either.


Before you 'judge' us for escaping from the clay and ask how this is possible, then there are a couple of things you must understand. First of all, the success I'm now experiencing with the rise in my ranking is accompanied mostly by the pressure to chase after points. Although I earned 64 points since the beginning of the year, which is more than three times what I earned last year in the same period - it is really nothing, because for three months I didn't do any points, which makes me really nervous knowing that really soon I'm going to have to start defending the points I made last year.

Defending points on clay? Fat chance, it's not worth the travel. This is how I've found myself since the beginning of the clay season playing very few competitions and mostly sitting on my ass, looking for places to travel to. To my great regret, when we grew up there were only two clay courts in Israel at a very low level, and we always found ourselves training on hard-courts. Today we play the price. It's hard to explain those differences, and how little you can change them in such a short period, to those who do not play the game. The surface is slow, the balls bounce high and the points are longer. And that's not the least of it, the problem is that the movement on clay is totally different than it is on hardcourt. If I wanted to compete decently on the clay, I'd have to practice in Europe for at least two months without any competitions, only to get used to the right movement on the court, get used to the height of the bounce and to the physical fitness this surface requires. No way do I have two months to leave everything and train for the clay season.

So, what does the 'escape from clay' means, numbers wise? Till today I played on clay, in my entire career (main draws of futures and challengers) – 6 matches, in comparison to the 281 matches I playd on hardcourts.

At least it's not just me. During my time with Dudi in south Korea I have discovered he can't stand the bloody clay either. Dudi has experienced the same thing as I do, he's already out of the top 100, and as he's unable to get into the main draw of big tournaments he had to play some challengers, and there aren't too many of those this year because of the global economics and the fact the amount of tournaments had been severely decreased. The lack of tournaments and the big demand has also caused the cut-off to become much higher. For example in Paris the cut for qualies is 222. 10 years ago it was 287, so I'm definitely out. So, I returned to Israel to play some futures trying to scrape some points. Dudi also decided it is better to take safe points in small tournaments over running to Paris, where he had to play qualies.

As strange as it may sounds, as I get higher up the ranking I find myself play less. Chasing after points and the inability to get into tournaments made me play maybe half of the tournaments I played during the equivalent period in 2010. Defending points is not a simple task at all and it always haunts you, no matter what your ranking is and how many points you have to defend.

I have dinner with Dudi and we immediately start talking 'math'. I tell him that my situation stinks, as I have 25 points to defend next month, otherwise I'd slide down the ranking. He looks at me and smiles. "Your situation is good, I have 80 points to defend next week, and 20 the week after and 40 the week after that". I look at him and say nothing.

And then I think that relatively speaking, he's not doing too bad. How is Djokovic going to defend next year all of the points he's making now?
Good question. Honestly the ranking system is really hard on the players, and not only those on the top as it seems.
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He does, I've noticed the physical similarities as well.
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Re: New blog post (135#) (22/5/11) Clay and I - by Amir Weintraub

Its frankly shocking that someone ranked within the 300 best in his profession worldwide needs to share hotel rooms to qualify for a Grand Slam.

The 300 best ranked baseball, football, or hockey player in North America is a millionaire.
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