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When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

After watching another beat down by a top 5 player of Roddick, I just don't understand why he things moon balling will win a match. It's depressing watching him hit 220+ kph serves and then just moon ball the rest of the point. When will he learn that aggression and offence is what is needed to beat top 5 players and win grand slams. Discuss
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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

he learned it a long time ago but he just cant play tennis at a high level so all he does is rely on his serve
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he learned it a long time ago but he just cant play tennis at a high level so all he does is rely on his serve
I've been trying to tell myself that for years, but we all know he can play aggressive tennis, its just he doesn't get it in his thick head.
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I've been trying to tell myself that for years, but we all know he can play aggressive tennis, its just he doesn't get it in his thick head.
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must be frustrating
It used to be, but seeing him lose so many times against top 5 opponents has made me get use to it.
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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

He moves better than all other players of his serving ability, I guess he likes to use that. But seriously, his game plan is enough to keep him ranked high, but not enough to really challenge for Slams routinely. At this stage in his career he is (and should be) mainly concerned with the latter so he really should change it up and attack more.

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He's almost in the twilight of his career, this is no time to be pushing and grinding out points, it's now or never for him, and sadly if he continues this way it will be never.
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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

That's where you're wrong. He can't play attacking tennis well and is unable to hit the ball on the rise. Stop wasting time with this wishful thinking of him being some sort of Davydenko or James Blake. He knows the percentages well, and that's why he plays like the way he plays. Brisbane has showed us that he has improved his speed around the court so that will help him to defend his quarter with a decent draw.

He has to worry about the fact that people are starting to read his serve better and better, and Soderling was a good example, since he is a pretty average returner. The fact that his stamina on keeping the serving level up high is slowly dipping down as matches go on is his main concern.
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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

Roddick said not too long ago that he considers quick movement to be the key thing in tennis. I got the impression that hitting hard is not one of his priorities, which is to me pretty strange. And telling from his presser after the final today, he seems to think that it was only the serve that separated the two today, not realizing that Soderling completely hit him off the court in the rallies.

Other than that, I agree with Statracket. Against lower ranked players, all Andy needs is his serve and he knows that. That's why he'll stay in the top 20 for a while even though he's one of the biggest pushers out there today.


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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

with all due respect but Roddick's serve and forehand should have not been the main focus of his prior coaches alone years ago
he and his coaches should have thought of his backhand and adding a slice;playing more doubles to learn how to approach better and volley better
he should have learned how to drop shot
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losing weight;working on footwork should have all been worked on years ago not 27 when he started working with L.S so that being aggressive should be second nature for him instead of something he is learning and trying to incorporate in his game
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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

He's never been any good but he did use to hit some pretty hard forehands back in 2003 when he won the US Open. If he played pushing tennis against Ferrero back then he would have easily lost

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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

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That's where you're wrong. He can't play attacking tennis well and is unable to hit the ball on the rise. Stop wasting time with this wishful thinking of him being some sort of Davydenko or James Blake. He knows the percentages well, and that's why he plays like the way he plays. Brisbane has showed us that he has improved his speed around the court so that will help him to defend his quarter with a decent draw.

He has to worry about the fact that people are starting to read his serve better and better, and Soderling was a good example, since he is a pretty average returner. The fact that his stamina on keeping the serving level up high is slowly dipping down as matches go on is his main concern.
Perfectly said. But it would be nice to see some of those old forehands he used to have. Hit the ball flatter and drive through the court.

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Re: When will Roddick learn that Pushing will not cut it anymore?

I like that his movement and footwork has significantly improved this year, seeing most of is matches in Brisbane, he got himself in positions where all he had to do as just hit the ball flat and he would have got the winner/point...However, I also noticed he was trying the drop shot quite a bit, and he did manage to pull of some good drop shots, however, his forehand is what is letting him down.
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