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Height range to make it in Tennis

I have found an interesting trend that has occurred among number 1 ranked tennis players. Look at the height of the number 1 tennis players in the open era:

Ilie Nastase - 5'11
John Newcombe - 6'0
Jimmy Connors - 5'9
Bjorn Borg - 5'11
John Mcenroe - 5'11

Ivan Lendl - 6'1
Mat Wilander - 5'11
Stefan Edberg - 6'2
Boris Becker - 6'3
Jim Courier - 6'1

Pete Sampras - 6'1
Andre Agassi - 5'11
Thomas Muster - 5'11
Marcelo Rios - 5'9
Carlos Moya - 6'3

Yevgeny Kafelnikov - 6'3
Patrick Rafter - 6'1
Marat Safin - 6'4
Gustavo Kuerten - 6'2
Lleyton Hewitt - 5'11

Juan Carlos Ferrero - 6'0
Andy Roddick - 6'2
Roger Federer - 6'1
Rafael Nadal - 6'1

So the ideal height would appear to be 6'1 and the range IMO would be from 5'10 - 6'3. I think 5'9 is too short these days but I think 5'10 (someone like Nishikori) is just enough to make it to the summit. Similarly I think 6'4 (someone like Bernard Tomic) is the absolute highest a tennis player can be to make it to the top. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray are all in this height range and I think it could be a contributing factor is to why they are the best players on tour.

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If you're good enough, you're tall enough.

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Under 3'2 is ideal. Can you imagine the speed at which each step occurs????
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Rod Laver- 2 CYGS, 11 Total GS, 1963-1967 1 French Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 4 Wembley Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 3 U.S. Pro(Grass Pro Major),

Height- 5' 7

P.S. Wood is the fastest surface
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Rod Laver- 2 CYGS, 11 Total GS, 1963-1967 1 French Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 4 Wembley Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 3 U.S. Pro(Grass Pro Major),

Height- 5' 7

P.S. Wood is the fastest surface
Actually ice is faster but the movement is rather tricky.
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Kinda hard for me in this thread because I am not too comfortable with feet/inches and am too lazy to convert all those heights, but I believe the perfect height is 185cm in modern tennis (6'1 I think), which is exact height of both Federer and Nadal. Higher than 195cm or so and your movement starts to suffer and you become more injury prone, while being below 180 is will have negative effect on your serve.
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Rod Laver- 2 CYGS, 11 Total GS, 1963-1967 1 French Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 4 Wembley Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 3 U.S. Pro(Grass Pro Major),

Height- 5' 7

P.S. Wood is the fastest surface
You have to take into account the fact that the average height of males since the 60s has grown. I think I read the average height of males in the sixties was around 5'7, so Rod Laver was quite average. These days the average height is around 5'10 so Laver would be quite short if he played in this era.
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Rod Laver- 2 CYGS, 11 Total GS, 1963-1967 1 French Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 4 Wembley Pro(Indoor Wood Professional Major), 3 U.S. Pro(Grass Pro Major),

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Laver also didn't play on the modern tour dominated by spin friendly rackets, huge servers and hard courts. He wouldn't be top 50 player right now.

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I think you will find alot taller players making it to the top in the future... look at del Potro for example.
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Laver also didn't play on the modern tour dominated by spin friendly rackets, huge servers and hard courts. He wouldn't be top 50 player right now.



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Might as well rename it to "whose body falls apart first" surface
See we say this looking back and in retrospect. We weren't there we didn't live in that generation. Laver had the natural talent for sure. He just didn't have the training that the players do these days, or the muscles, fitness, eating habits, ANYTHING. But no one did. Tennis has evolved so much. Laver could well have been great in this era. In the form he was in he would get whipped by any top 100 player today but that is not because they have more talent. Same goes really for Borg or any of the 70's players too. The technology and bodies of rackets and players are so different.

Laver would do fine on hardcourts.

One day 40 years from now people will probably look back and say the same about Nadal and Federer and this generation.
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I think you will find alot taller players making it to the top in the future... look at del Potro for example.
He is injured, and his movement is bad. Ballbashers can cause an upset or even win a slam if someone really chokes like Fed in 2009 final but they can NEVER dominate. Soderling, Berdych, Del Po, etc. Will never dominate an era like a Sampras, Federer, Nadal, etc
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He is injured, and his movement is bad. Ballbashers can cause an upset or even win a slam if someone really chokes like Fed in 2009 final but they can NEVER dominate. Soderling, Berdych, Del Po, etc. Will never dominate an era like a Sampras, Federer, Nadal, etc
A very good point. And the main difference between ATP and WTA tour. Guys like Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray can hit as hard as the ball bashers, but also possess vastly superior movement and defense, which enables them to force errors or retaliate with their own winners if the ball isn't struck very hard and very deep. Another negative thing about very tall player is their brittle joints, which require guys like Del Po to do a lot of strength training in order not to get injured.
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A very good point. And the main difference between ATP and WTA tour. Guys like Federer, Nadal, Djokovic and Murray can hit as hard as the ball bashers, but also possess vastly superior movement and defense, which enables them to force errors or retaliate with their own winners if the ball isn't struck very hard and very deep. Another negative thing about very tall player is their brittle joints, which require guys like Del Po to do a lot of strength training in order not to get injured.
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See we say this looking back and in retrospect. We weren't there we didn't live in that generation. Laver had the natural talent for sure. He just didn't have the training that the players do these days, or the muscles, fitness, eating habits, ANYTHING. But no one did. Tennis has evolved so much. Laver could well have been great in this era. In the form he was in he would get whipped by any top 100 player today but that is not because they have more talent. Same goes really for Borg or any of the 70's players too. The technology and bodies of rackets and players are so different.

One day 40 years from now people will probably look back and say the same about Nadal and Federer and this generation.
Not "probably" but "definitely." The intense, worldwide competition that drives tennis will keep racheting up the level of play. Forty years from now, today's Federer and Nadal probably wouldn't make the top 50.
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