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Murray 16 18.39%
Youzhny 2 2.30%
Roddick 11 12.64%
Monfils 3 3.45%
Cilic 6 6.90%
Ljubicic 11 12.64%
Fish 25 28.74%
Isner 5 5.75%
Other (specify?) 8 9.20%
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post #1 of 78 (permalink) Old 12-27-2010, 01:59 PM Thread Starter
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Who has the worst forehand in the top 20?

I picked some 'candidates' in the poll, but you could always nominate someone else. Here is the top 20:



I think it's between Fish and Ljubicic. Cilic's forehand can be wildly inconsistent, too...
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Re: Who has the worst forehand in the top 20?

Some very strange choices there. Cilic has no place there even when his FH is the wildest it can possibly be. His FH is a major weapon. Isner's FH is as good as his movement will allow it, i.e. when he gets into a position it's a solid enough shot. Youzhny? It's not as good as his BH, but what the heck is he doing on this list. Roddick and Monfils like to push a lot, but their FHs are not exploitable in a major way.

The answer is probably Fish, followed by Ljubo/Muzza
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Some very strange choices there. Cilic has no place there even when his FH is the wildest it can possibly be. His FH is a major weapon. Isner's FH is as good as his movement will allow it, i.e. when he gets into a position it's a solid enough shot. Youzhny? It's not as good as his BH, but what the heck is he doing on this list. Roddick and Monfils like to push a lot, but their FHs are not exploitable in a major way.
Well, the fact that those players are in the poll doesn't necessarily mean that I think that their forehands are bad, but I tried to choose the players who are perhaps in a second tier within the top 20 with respect to their FHs. What I mean is, I think the 12 other players who are not in the list clearly have better FHs than those listed. It's all subjective, of course.

I agree with most of what you said - though I think it's exactly those factors which limits the utility of those players' forehands. Cilic has problems with consistency, Isner is restricted by his movement, Roddick doesn't really seem to have a weapon in his forehand any more, etc. Youzhny's forehand is decent - his is probably the best of those in the poll.
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I would say that Baghdatis has the less harmful forehand here. Also Ljubicić or Cilić definitely don't reach their potential in this shot, especially Cilić has a muggish forehand stroke, pondering over his physical conditions.
Murray has the worst forehand from the Top 10 with no doubt, but he can still improve.

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Re: Who has the worst forehand in the top 20?

I think it's Cilic...he struggles with those forehands off a ball that is pretty much in the middle of the court. Not a bad shot otherwise, but it can break down
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Re: Who has the worst forehand in the top 20?

It's Mardy Fish every day of the week, surely!?
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Re: Who has the worst forehand in the top 20?

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Some very strange choices there. Cilic has no place there even when his FH is the wildest it can possibly be. His FH is a major weapon. Isner's FH is as good as his movement will allow it, i.e. when he gets into a position it's a solid enough shot. Youzhny? It's not as good as his BH, but what the heck is he doing on this list. Roddick and Monfils like to push a lot, but their FHs are not exploitable in a major way.

The answer is probably Fish, followed by Ljubo/Muzza
Disagree, Cilic's forehand breaks down regularly, sure it can be a weapon but it's unreliable and I've never seen another top 20 player net his forehand as much as Cilic.... his winner vs ue ratio on it this year would have made ridiculous reading.

Of course Murray can hit his forehand hard too.... but he goes for the safer option.

Cilic's fh is the worst in the top 20 atm.

Generally it's probably Fish.
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It must be definetely Verdsaco. That's one fugly forehand.

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Disagree, Cilic's forehand breaks down regularly, sure it can be a weapon but it's unreliable and I've never seen another top 20 player net his forehand as much as Cilic.... his winner vs ue ratio on it this year would have made ridiculous reading.

Of course Murray can hit his forehand hard too.... but he goes for the safer option.

Cilic's fh is the worst in the top 20 atm.

Generally it's probably Fish.
His W/UE ration on everything this season has been atrocious as he mugged more than 3/4 of a season, so that really doesn't tell anything. I'm pretty sure his return stats are terrible too, when normally he'd be up in top 10 on most. When he spanked Murray, Nadal or pretty much anyone of note, it was more down to his FH than the BH. Immense power and crazy angles he can create make it ridiculous to have him in the poll. In no way is it at all comparable to Fish, Ljubo's or Muzza's FH, for instance, which are all a liability regardless whether they hit any UEs with it or not. It's like comparing Roddick's and Cipolla serve just because duck had a string of low first percentage matches
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Fish, of course
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Re: Who has the worst forehand in the top 20?

Fish, Roddick, Cilic and Ljubicic are the worst here.

Murray shouldn't be on the list. His forehand is rather tame in comparison to some others, but it's very reliable, can have some MAJOR power on it and is usually very accurate.

Also, why is everyone saying Isner?
His forehand is very powerful and is a very solid shot. Definitely in the top 10 out of these players.

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Andy Murray imo
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