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The biggest tribute thread so far

Moya left the tennis circuit unfortunately in the shadow, and it's a pity because he has considerably contributed to the modern tennis... I wish he hadn't announced his retirement at the end of 2008 or hadn't done as other notable players like Edberg, Safin or Rafter - a farewell season.

In the last two years, Moya was actually non-existent on the main level, only 10 tournaments, 4 wins... Remembering that he had already 1 major title and 1 final at the age of 21, I'd say he went as an underachiever, but on the other hand, who would have expected in 1996 that this 20 year-old clay-courter would become No. 1 player in the world one day?

First of all, he was an example of a player who maximally adjusted his game-style to abilities, sometimes it was ridiculous how he was trying to play forehands from the backhand side, but somehow it worked very efficiently! Obviously with alone forehand he couldn't achieve so much, he was a big server and very clever volleyer. An he used his net skills on faster surfaces very well, in some sense beginning a new era in the Spanish tennis - before Moya actually every Spanish player was a synonym of a clay-court specialist... Moya achieved a lot on hardcourts and indoors but never adjusted his game to grass, and I think it's more a matter of his return games cause he simply hadn't time to prepare himself properly to powerful forehand shots from his left side.

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Win/loss:
Career Singles (Tour Level Only): 576 - 323 (.640)
Career Doubles (Tour Level Only): 26 - 52 (.333)

Career Singles (incl. ITF Challengers and ITF Pro Circuits): 648 - 357 (.644)
Career Doubles (incl. ITF Challengers and ITF Pro Circuits): 41 - 73 (.359)

Number of tournaments played in singles:
- Main Tour (Grand Slams and ATP Tour): 324
- Challengers: 14
- Satellites: 7

CAREER TITLES in singles: (20 ATP + 2 Challengers)
95 - Buenos Aires (7), Oberstaufen, Budapest
96 - Umag (29)
97 - Long Island (56)
98 - Monte Carlo (73), ROLAND GARROS (76)
00 - Estoril (115)
01 - Umag (148)
02 - Acapulco (160), Bastad (171), Umag (172), Cincinnati (175)
03 - Buenos Aires (184), Barcelona (189), Umag (195)
04 - Chennai (204), Acapulco (208), Rome (213)
05 - Chennai (224)
06 - Buenos Aires (248)
07 - Umag (284)

Finalist: (24 ATP + 1 Challenger)

Best results in Grand Slam:
Australian Open (runner up 1997; quarter-finalist 2001)
Roland Garros (winner 1998; quarter-finalist 2003, 04 & 07)
US Open (semifinalist 1998; quarter-finalist 2007)
Best results in Masters Series:
Indian Wells (runner up 1999; quarter-finalist 2005)
Miami (runner up 2003; quarter-finalist 2004)
Monte Carlo (winner 1998; runner up 2002; semifinalist 1997, 03; quarter-finalist 1999)
Hamburg (semifinalist 1999 & 07; quarter-finalist 2004, 08)
Rome (winner 2004; quarter-finalist 2002)
Cincinnati (winner 2002; quarter-finalist 2004, 07, 08)
Paris (quarter-finalist 2002)
# Davis Cup champion 2004
# Four times played at the Masters (1997, 98, 02, 03)... runner up in 1998
# Quarter-finalist at the Olympics in Athens (2004)


CAREER TITLES in doubles:
none

Best results in Grand Slam:
Australian Open 2001 (quarterfinal/N.Lapentti)
* His first appearance in doubles in Grand Slam!

Career High Singles: 1 (15 Mar 1999)
Career High Doubles: 108 (29 Oct 2001)

Singles ranking history at the end of the year (1994-2010):
347 - 61 - 28 - 7 - 5 - 22 - 41 - 19 - 5 - 7 - 5 - 31 - 43 - 17 - 42 - 446 - 514.

Prize Money: $13,443,970

* Detailed singles statistic (including Challengers, Futures & Satellites):
5-setters: 16-19
Tie-breaks: 233-183
TB's in the deciding set: 36-13
The longest winning match: 4 hours 3 minutes; Philipp Kohlschreiber 4-6, 7-5, 7-6, 4-6, 6-4 (US Open 2007)
The longest losing match: 4 hours 31 minutes; Paul-Henri Mathieu 3-6, 6-3, 6-2, 3-6, 3-6 (Davis Cup 2004)
The longest winning tie-break: 16-14 Pepe Imaz (Roland Garros 1998)
The longest losing tie-break: 12-14 Andre Agassi (Cincinnati 2004)
The most served aces: 29 - defeated Olivier Patience in five sets (Wimbledon 2004)



The other tributes:

Dominik Hrbaty Sebastien Grosjean Alberto Martin Taylor Dent
Mariano Zabaleta Guillermo Canas Fabrice Santoro Marat Safin
Thomas Johansson Andrei Pavel Jonas Bjorkman Gustavo Kuerten
Felix Mantilla Davide Sanguinetti Kenneth Carlsen Tim Henman Wayne Arthurs Sjeng Schalken Greg Rusedski



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Re: The statistical tribute to Carlos Moya (1994-2010)

The most interesting matches in Moya's career in my subjective view:


Munich 1996, QF: T.Muster 6-3 6-3

The first sign of Moya's tremendous clay-court potential, Muster at the time was almost unbeatable on clay (in 1995 had a 40 and 10 match winning streaks) - lost his first match after winning 38 in a row on this surface. The funny thing, it was their 4th clay-court match in 1996, Muster won in Estoril, Barcelona and Monte Carlo.

B.Becker
6-3 5-7 6-4 (Paris 1996, 2R) &
5-7 7-6(4) 3-6 6-1 6-4 (Australian Open 1997, 1R)


Two wins over Becker in 3 months and both very important because before beating the German in Paris, Moya hadn't any notable win indoors, before AO '97 any notable win on hardcourts. Both matches were dramatic, especially that in Paris when Moya wasted a 4:2* (40-15) lead in the 2nd set and two match points serving to win the match at 5:4 in the 3rd set - the second after referee's overrule which got back to 'deuce'. The boost of confidence was so big, that Moya became a sensation in Melbourne advancing to the final, I saw all his matches then and he improved within a week like most players in a year, he was so relaxed that in the quarters beat Mantilla playing almost the whole match serve & volley!

Roland Garros 1998, F: A.Corretja 6-3 7-5 6-3

Moya was very dominant over his older compatriot, it was a boring final but Moya's biggest success in career and at the time he looked like a potential multiple Grand Slam champion... In the 2nd round, Moya won the longest tie-break in the Roland Garros history (16-14 against Pepe Imaz).

Hannover 1998, F: A.Corretja 6-3 6-3 5-7 3-6 5-7

Funny revenge, only two games won by Moya at 5:5 in the 3rd set and we would have had almost a copy of their RG final. Between their matches in Paris and Hannover, they met also in New York where Moya won 7-6 7-5 6-3 and through 8 consecutive sets they played in 1998, it looked that Corretja regardless of positive attitude just has to lose the most important points against Moya. In the 3rd set in Hannover, Moya led 40-0 on serve at 5:6 and suddenly something unexpectedly happened - he lost 5 straight points and his confidence...

Indian Wells 1999, SF; G.Kuerten 6-3 1-6 6-1

No. 4 in the world Moya, after this win becomes the best player in the world albeit at the beginning of the tournament it was almost impossible! There were many possibilities but generally before the tournament Kafelnikov and Corretja had very good chance to dethrone Sampras but both lost their first matches, and contemporary two-time US Open champion Rafter too (!) - he had around 100 points less than Moya in the ATP ranking though.

Indianapolis 1999, 1R: D.Vacek 1-6 6-4 7-6(6)

I'd say very important match on psychological terms for Moya. He led 5:1* in the 3rd set, then was *1:4 down in the tie-break. Maybe this match is a key to mysterious Moya's record of the final set tie-break?

Hamburg 2000, 1R: J.C.Ferrero 6-3 2-6 6-7(5)

That's a funny match, our specialist of decisive tie-breaks wasted here a 5:1 lead in the final tie-break

Paris 2002, 3R: S.Grosjean 3-6 7-6(10) 6-1

U-turn in their matches. Grosjean beat Moya twice after saving match points (Key Biscayne 1999, Indian Wells 2001); in Paris, Moya prevailed saving 6 match points in that tie-break and won their another match saving a match point again (Sydney 2006). I don't know but very probable that their H2H is the only one in the whole Open era when 4 matches were finished with saving/wasting match points. Moya lost two matches in his career wasting a match point also to Jiri Novak & Potito Starace

Roland Garros 2003, QF: M.Verkerk 3-6 4-6 7-5 6-4 6-8

Moya's biggest chance to repeat his success in Paris, he was two points away from winning at 5:4* and 6:5 in the 5th set against spooky Verkerk The match lasted 3:52, I'd say Moya had a problem with physical endurance, his 5-set record in more than 4-hour matches is much more worse than his 5-set record overall: 1-6 to 16-19.

Olympics-Athens 2004, 1R: T.Enqvist 7-6(7) 6-7(8) 9-7

One of those sparse matches in which each set could have gone other way. Moya saved a set point in the 1st tie-break, had two match points in the 2nd tie-break at 7:6 & *8:7, then was 3:5* down in the 3rd set, and saved two match points at 4:5, and another at *6:7! The match lasted 2 hours 59 minutes.

Davis Cup-Seville 2004, F: A.Roddick 6-2 7-6(1) 7-6(5)

This win gave Spain their second Davis Cup crown, Moya was out of the team in 2000 due to poor form. Despite the favorable surface (clay), it was a tricky match for Moya because he had 0-3 at the time against A-Rod.



Roland Garros 2005, 3R: F.Vicente 6-4 7-6(4) 6-7(3) 0-6 6-4

Here would have been one of the biggest chokes in the Roland Garros history but Moya escaped from it. Vicente saved 4 match points serving at 4:5 in the 3rd set. In the 5th set, Moya had another match point serving at 5:2 but was 0-40 serving to win the match again at 5:4! Ultimately won his 7th match point...

Chennai 2008, SF: R.Nadal 7-6(3) 6-7(8) 6-7(1)

A double occasion, not only is equaled the longest 3-set match at the time (3:54 - the record was frozen 15 years) but Moya also finally loses a final set tie-break after 17 straight wins in those circumstances.
Here is my thread about it
He has won not only the most tie-breaks of the final set in a row but overall, counting the main level - 34... Nadal should have been beaten in straight sets, Moya led *4:1 in the 2nd tie-break, then had match points at 6:3 and 7:6.

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Thank you so much my friend.. I was really waiting for this cause he was my favorite player after Rafa

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he retired...?

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Thanks so much once again, Voo. I was really looking forward to this tribute thread.
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Thank you so much Voo for this well deserved tribute. I agree with you that he was the first player of the Spanish Armada that well adapted his game to hard courts. He was a very clever player. A week ago he played an exhibition match with Guillermo Cañas in Buenos Aires where he won his first ATP title. Definitely someone that will be missed.

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The most interesting matches in Moya's career in my subjective view:


Munich 1996, QF: T.Muster 6-3 6-3

First sign of Moya's tremendous clay-court potential, Muster at the time was almost unbeatable on clay (in 1995 had 40 and 10 match winning streaks) - lost first match after winning 38 in a row on this surface. The funny thing, it was their 4th clay-court match in 1996, Muster won in Estoril, Barcelona and Monte Carlo

B.Becker
6-3 5-7 6-4 (Paris 1996, 2R) &
5-7 7-6(4) 3-6 6-1 6-4 (Australian Open 1997, 1R)


Two wins over Becker in 3 months and both very important because before beating the German in Paris, Moya hadn't any notable win indoors, before AO '97 any notable win on hardcourts. Both matches were dramatic, especially that in Paris when Moya wasted a 4:2* (40-15) lead in the 2nd set and two match points serving to win the match at 5:4 in the 3rd set - the second after referee's overrule which got back to 'deuce'. The boost of confidence was so big, that Moya became a sensation in Melbourne advancing to the final, I saw all his matches then and he improved within a week like most players in a year, he was so relaxed that in the quarters beat Mantilla playing almost the whole match serve & volley!

Roland Garros 1998, F: A.Corretja 6-3 7-5 6-3

Moya was very dominant over is older compatriot, it was a boring final but Moya's biggest success in career and at the moment he looked like a potential multiple Grand Slam champion... In the 2nd round, Moya won the longest tie-break in the Roland Garros (16-14 against Pepe Imaz).

Hannover 1998, F: A.Corretja 6-3 6-3 5-7 3-6 5-7

Funny revenge, only two games won by Moya at 5:5 in the 3rd set and we would have had almost a copy of their RG final. Between their matches in Paris and Hannover, they met also in New York where Moya won 7-6 7-5 6-3 and through 8 consecutive sets they played in 1998, it looked that Corretja regardless of positive attitude just has to lose the most important points against Moya. In the 3rd set in Hannover, Moya led 40-0 on serve at 5:6 and suddenly something unexpectedly happened - he lost 5 straight points and his confidence...

Indian Wells 1999, SF; G.Kuerten 6-3 1-6 6-1

No. 4 in the world Moya, after this win becomes the best player in the world albeit at the beginning of the tournament it was almost impossible! There were many possibilities but generally before the tournament Kafelnikov and Corretja had very good chance to dethrone Sampras but both lost their first matches, and contemporary two-time US Open champion Rafter too (!) - he had points around 100 points less than Moya in the ATP ranking though.

Indianapolis 1999, 1R: D.Vacek 1-6 6-4 7-6(6)

I'd say very important match on psychological terms for Moya. He led 5:1* in the 3rd set, then was *1:4 down in the tie-break. Maybe this match is a key to mysterious Moya's record of the final set tie-break?

Hamburg 2000, 1R: J.C.Ferrero 6-3 2-6 6-7(5)

That's a funny match, our specialist of decisive tie-breaks wasted here a 5:1 lead in the final tie-break

Paris 2002, 3R: S.Grosjean 3-6 7-6(10) 6-1

U-turn in their matches. Grosjean beat Moya twice after saving match points (Key Biscayne 1999, Indian Wells 2001), in Paris, Moya prevailed saving 6 match points in that tie-break and won their another match saving a match point again (Sydney 2006). I don't know but very probable that their H2H is the only one in the whole Open era when 4 matches were finished with saving/wasting match points. Moya lost two matches in career wasting a match point also against Starace

Roland Garros 2003, QF: M.Verkerk 3-6 4-6 7-5 6-4 6-8

Moya's biggest chance to repeat his success in Paris, he was two points away from winning at 5:4 and 6:5 in the 5th set against spooky Verkerk The match lasted almost 3:52, I'd say Moya had a problem with physical endurance, his 5-set record in more than 4-hour matches is much more worse than his 5-set record overall: 1-6 to 16-19

Olympics-Athens 2004, 1R: T.Enqvist 7-6(7) 6-7(8) 9-7

One of those sparse matches in which each set could have gone other way. Moya saved a set point in the 1st tie-break, had a match point in the 2nd tie-break serving at 8:7, then was 3:5* down in the 3rd set, and saved two match points at 4:5, and another at *6:7! The match lasted 2 hours 59 minutes.

Davis Cup-Seville 2004, F: A.Roddick 6-2 7-6(1) 7-6(5)

This win gave Spain their second Davis Cup crown, Moya was out of the team in 2000 due to poor form. Despite the favorable surface (clay), it was a tricky match for Moya because he had 0-3 at the time against A-Rod.



Roland Garros 2005, 3R: F.Vicente 6-4 7-6(4) 6-7(3) 0-6 6-4

Here would have been one of the biggest chokes in the Roland Garros history but Moya escaped from it. Vicente saved 4 match points serving at 4:5 in the 3rd set. In the 5th set, Moya had another match point serving at 5:2 but was 0-40 serving to win the match again at 5:4! Ultimately won his 7th match point...

Chennai 2008, SF: R.Nadal 7-6(3) 6-7(8) 6-7(1)

A double occasion, not only is equaled the longest 3-set match at the time (3:54 - the record was frozen 15 years) but Moya also finally loses a final set tie-break after 17 straight wins in those circumstances.
Here is my thread about it
He has won not only the most tie-breaks of the final set in a row but overall counting the main level - 34... Nadal should have been beaten in straight sets, Moya led *4:1 in the 2nd tie-break, then had match points at 6:3 and 7:6.
I remember a match against F. González around 2001 or so in which both players played their hearts out. Moyá ended up winning and afterwards he said it was the greatest match he's ever played or something along those lines. Do you remember that?

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Oh, Carlos you gave me such a wonderful time in the early mornings that year beating Becker and Chang in Australia
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I remember a match against F. González around 2001 or so in which both players played their hearts out. Moyá ended up winning and afterwards he said it was the greatest match he's ever played or something along those lines. Do you remember that?
When I saw this thread I knew this match was not going to be mentioned . Moya himself declared after he won it was the most dramatic match and where he had enjoyed the most bc of the crowd and how it went at that point in his career. I was on court and it was a marvellous match indeed.
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When I saw this thread I knew this match was not going to be mentioned
You're such a ridiculously sucking moron

I've got recorded this match from Madrid 2002 (2-6 7-6 7-6), Gonzalez had a match point at 6:5 (adv.) in the 2nd set after Moya's double fault but Carlos saved it with forehand DTL forcing Fena's forehand error. Moya converted his 2nd match point with a high backhand volley and celebrated falling on the ground.

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Thanks so much once again, Voo. I was really looking forward to this tribute thread.
Me too and it didn't disappoint! I knew Moya was good in final set tiebreakers but I didn't know he was that good.

Moya was sheer class. Donated his Chennai prizemoney to tsunami victims and won the Arthur Ashe Humanitarian of the Year in 2005. Played right handed but is naturally left handed, funny because his double handed backhand wasn't exactly a great shot!

Beat reigning Wimbledon finalist Philippoussis on grass court in a Davis Cup final. 13 consecutive top 50 seasons is awesome especially considering his injuries and he only just missed out in 1995 (ranked 61).

I think Moya will always be my all time favourite. Thanks for the memories Mr Umag!

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