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Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

Not getting into the 'GOAT' debate, but seriously, match up wise this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VUBtEbuOuY

Is better than anything Federer/Nadal ever produced. I think Sampras and Agassi played the cleanest, purest tennis matches ever. So beautiful to watch, and thats with inferior equipment and training regimens.

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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

this is way better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eqjWcz_28M
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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

Can't comment on the rivalry as I haven't seen that many of their matches but their USO 01 QF always seems overrated to me...
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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

Lol, you're insane

I love all aspects of TENNIS.

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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

Different style of tennis between these two pairs.
I like Rog/Rafa more because there are epic matches at very important stages on all different surfaces.
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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

There are so many clones, that my eyes bleed.
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Different style of tennis between these two pairs.
I like Rog/Rafa more because there are epic matches at very important stages on all different surfaces.
Its a different style, but Agassi/Sampras is much better to watch imo. To me, Nadal and Federer's styles clash, while Agassi and Sampras' styles brought out the best in each other.

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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

Their rivalry was very 1 dimensional. Just Sampras either outserving Agassi, or killing him with 1-2 punches off a weak return (volleys). And when Agassi would win, mostly just a passing shot or hit the passer so hard that Sampras buries it into the net.

That rivalry was mostly on hard courts.

Now with Nadal and Federer, we have the following.

Unique tennis:
1. They can play top level tennis on all surfaces, and their rivalry has taken it to each of these surfaces.
2. They don't rely on 1-2 punches, they mix it up a lot. Sometimes they may implement serve and volley on some points, other times 1-2 punches, other times lengthy exhausting rallies.
3. Unlike Sampras/Agassi, they are not STIFF. They are very flexible, and have ridiculously amazing defense games.

Sampras/Agassi may hit clean winners and serves, but they will never compare to the Federer/Nadal rivalry. Anyways, Sampras owned Agassi like 75% of the time, it was a weak rivalry.
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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

noooooob, federer is the best.

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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

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Their rivalry was very 1 dimensional. Just Sampras either outserving Agassi, or killing him with 1-2 punches off a weak return (volleys). And when Agassi would win, mostly just a passing shot or hit the passer so hard that Sampras buries it into the net.
Whereas Nadal-Fed rivalry is multidimensional - moonball to BH ad infinitum
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Its a different style, but Agassi/Sampras is much better to watch imo. To me, Nadal and Federer's styles clash, while Agassi and Sampras' styles brought out the best in each other.
Actually I think it rarely happened in Sampras-Agassi rivery that they each played their best.
Most of cases, it was one killing the other.
There were so few close scores like we had between Rogi and Rafa. There were in total like 2 five-setters and 1 4-setter with all TBs.
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Their rivalry was very 1 dimensional. Just Sampras either outserving Agassi, or killing him with 1-2 punches off a weak return (volleys). And when Agassi would win, mostly just a passing shot or hit the passer so hard that Sampras buries it into the net.

That rivalry was mostly on hard courts.

Now with Nadal and Federer, we have the following.

Unique tennis:
1. They can play top level tennis on all surfaces, and their rivalry has taken it to each of these surfaces.
2. They don't rely on 1-2 punches, they mix it up a lot. Sometimes they may implement serve and volley on some points, other times 1-2 punches, other times lengthy exhausting rallies.
3. Unlike Sampras/Agassi, they are not STIFF. They are very flexible, and have ridiculously amazing defense games.

Sampras/Agassi may hit clean winners and serves, but they will never compare to the Federer/Nadal rivalry. Anyways, Sampras owned Agassi like 75% of the time, it was a weak rivalry.
Neither play unique tennis, they all play their particular style better than anyone else.

Every Nadal/Federer match is really the same tactically: Nadal attacking the Federer backhand. If it breaks down, Nadal wins, if it doesn't, Federer wins.

Point taken on the surfaces, but since all surfaces today are really the same its not so important.

Sampras and Agassi weren't stiff. Agassi was at the end of his career after traumatic back injuries.

And Nadal beats Federer 75% of the time too.

I'm not comparing them in terms of greatness btw, I'm just saying Sampras/Agassi matches are better to watch.

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Federer - The Artist
Murray - The Tactician
Nalbandian - The Ballstriker
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Whereas Nadal-Fed rivalry is multidimensional - moonball to BH ad infinitum
Tennis strategy can't get as complicated as a math or physics problem.

You have to admit many long-rallies between Fed and Nad are breathtaking. Nadal pushes to Fed's backhand but then Fed will need to make choices between several different options.
1. Hold a backhand to forehand rally
2. Change direction to Nadal's backhand
3. Use forehand inside-out or inside-in.

As you can see, many different things can happen in a long rally.

There are also many good one-two punches and net-approaches mostly from Fed's side.
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Re: Sampras/Agassi > Federer/Nadal

No contest. Fedal WAY better.
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Tennis strategy can't get as complicated as a math or physics problem.

You have to admit many long-rallies between Fed and Nad are breathtaking. Nadal pushes to Fed's backhand but then Fed will need to make choices between several different options.
1. Hold a backhand to forehand rally
2. Change direction to Nadal's backhand
3. Use forehand inside-out or inside-in.

As you can see, many different things can happen in a long rally.

There are also many good one-two punches and net-approaches mostly from Fed's side.
The way you make it sound, tennis would be one of the most boring sports and the matchup certainly turns that way more often than not
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