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What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

As you all know, the Kazakhstan tennis federation has bought players from Russia to compete for their national tennis team. Korolev, Golubev, Kukushkin and Schukin have all been payed large sums of money to represent the Kazakhstan, with the goal of making the world group of the Davis Cup, and leaping ahead of Russia in the world of tennis power. So, with this being said, how will you feel if players who have no familial connection towards the country of Kazakhstan bring this country into the world group of the Davis Cup? Especially being they are playing Switzerland at home, without the services of Federer. Do you not care, or does this annoy you?

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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

with the new rule regarding atp points and davis cup, they should have no problem with playing for whatever country.

i expect them to make the world group.

and i don't think the people of kazakhstan should be bothered that foreigners are representing their country either.
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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

It dosen't bother me. It's not like they are world beaters now, it's not a bad thing for there to be another competitive country in Davis Cup play.

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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

The way I see it personally, these men have improved their careers by accepting the proposal to play for Kazakhstan. They have more support than they ever would have received in Russia. They make a lot of money. They have facilities they can train at whenever they please. So, I have no issue with them doing what they need to do for their livelihoods.

With that said, it would be a little off for them to eliminate players who are actually playing for a country they are from because that's who they are and the love of their country, instead of players playing for a country for money and prestige purposes. Although if these guys get the support from true Kazakhstani's then it is what it is, if they have no problem with it, neither do I. I'm sure they don't care as long as these guys win, because they finally have a place on the tennis map.
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I think it is a good thing that Kazahkstan will most likely be in the world group next year. Being in the world group generates interest in tennis for a nation and should cause the Kazahk media to write about tennis probably more than they would have before. Not only that but also the fact that some actual native Kazahks will get the chance to hit with the pros during the DC tie and soak in the world group experience and maybe motivate them to become top 100 players themselves one day.

All in all I think this is a very good thing for not only Kazahk tennis but also tennis in general because the more countries we have being competitive (especially in the Asian zone where Kazahkstan comepete) then the better tennis will get everywhere, as well as raising popularity levels. Vamos Kazahkstan, do it for the future of Kazahk tennis.
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Korolev, Golubev, Kukushkin and Schukin - they all can sold their nationality 4 money This is the reason that they also fix their matches because thay can do everyting 4 money. They dont know what is pride in sport, so - dont create threads about players like they are
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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

Russia bought many athletes from former USSR countries, a taste of their own medicine I guess.
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Chiudinelli will fight like an animal for Switzerland and Wawa should win, so idk

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Chiudinelli will fight like an animal for Switzerland and Wawa should win, so idk
True, but Stan is admittedly still dealing with the thigh situation from the US Open, and says he's tired. I think Switzerland are the slight favorite. If the Kazakhs do come away victorious, I wonder what would happen if they are drawn Russia in R1. That situation could get testy.
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I think it is a good thing that Kazahkstan will most likely be in the world group next year. Being in the world group generates interest in tennis for a nation and should cause the Kazahk media to write about tennis probably more than they would have before. Not only that but also the fact that some actual native Kazahks will get the chance to hit with the pros during the DC tie and soak in the world group experience and maybe motivate them to become top 100 players themselves one day.

All in all I think this is a very good thing for not only Kazahk tennis but also tennis in general because the more countries we have being competitive (especially in the Asian zone where Kazahkstan comepete) then the better tennis will get everywhere, as well as raising popularity levels. Vamos Kazahkstan, do it for the future of Kazahk tennis.
Great post. I totally agree. I didn't think of this previously but it makes so much sense.
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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

Personally I hate this situation. Like I hate in soccer, (especially in my Portuguese team) I hate in tennis too. Representing the country should be a passionate thing. Not a "do money" thing.

And other thing. Imagine that good spanish players that doesn't have the chance to be in their team, like Gimeno-Traver, RRH or Pere Riba represent (for example) Monaco team. They are taking the chance of reasonable good teams like Poland, Latvia, Portugal or Lithuania to ever make it to the WG. It would be like a team Spain A and a team Spain B...
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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

Rubber #1: A. Golubev(KAZ) def. M. Chiudinelli(SUI) 6-4 6-4 6-4

Looks like things will be on Stan to win both his singles and pray the doubles of Allegro/Lammer get the job done. Although if Stan plays an easy singles match expect Allegro/Stan.

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Allegro/Stan surely.

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Re: What will you think Kazakhstan's bought players make it in the world group?

I am kazakh. I feel no liking for these guys. They are foreigners and they know nothing about Kazakhstan.
I don't care if they win or if they lose. I don't mind it.

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I am kazakh. I feel no liking for these guys. They are foreigners and they know nothing about Kazakhstan.
I don't care if they win or if they lose. I don't mind it.
I am a Kazak too and I think your opinion represents minority of tennis fans in Kazakstan. Maybe because you live abroad for a while, no?

First, I read interviews of Golubev, Kukushkin and Korolev, saw them during the Kazakstan National Championship (well, not Koro though)-- they know a lot about Kazakstan, come here quite often, like it here (and who doesn't?!) or at least say so.

Second, it's not a big difference if Golubev who lives in Italy or Korolev who lives in Germany represents Kazakstan or Russia. We've been the same country not long time ago and many Kazakstani athletes represented Soviet Union. In fact, for many more years majority of people in both Kazakstan and Russia will feel as we are from the same country, until the last generation of Soviets will be gone. If it was easy for Likhovtseva to represent Russia, why can't Korolev represent Kazakstan?

And finally, it's HUGE for all Kazaks that we fight for a place in the Wolrd Group! WE couldn't even dream about it three years ago! I am watching live the DC matches, the stadium is pretty full (not 100% full but tennis isn't yet that popular in Kazakstan) and it's a great event for our country.

You don't care if Kazakstan wins or not? Nothing to be proud of.
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