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How IMPORTANT is WTF? Is it = a grand slam?

To me personally, I love WTF more than some of the slams because its only the top 8 in a round-robin format which means they don't go out after losing just a single match. The only problem is that it is best of 3 sets.

It's a great mini-grand to wrap up the year at London, BUT why do players often ignore WTF? Andy Roddick last year didn't bother to show up (now he might never get the privilege again) and all the other players didn't step up their game or played seriously enough letting Davydenko win it.

How important is WTF to the players, it is 1500 ATP points after all.

To solve this problem of players not caring enough, would it be good for ATP to upgrade WTF into a Grand Slam, make it worth 2000 points, and give it the media coverage of a slam? It would be the indoor grand slam for the top players.
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Re: How IMPORTANT is WTF? Is it = a grand slam?

Shit thread, it's been established long ago that WTF is an irrelevant exho.
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I give a rat's ass about the WTF tbh. For the players I cannot judge, depends on their abilities to play indoors I reckon. Upgrading the tournament with more points won't help much either I think.
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WTF is nowhere near a slam, when mugs like Davydenko can win it. It's not even best of 5 sets
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WTF is worth 1500 points, that pretty darn close to a grand slam points and is the biggest tournament outside a GS.

I think they should just upgrade it to a indoor Grand Slam worth 2000 points and make it best of 5. This would actually make the indoor season matter.
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By so late in the year, even the best players tend to be worn out and carrying injuries. I

Plus, it's INDOORS.

Indoor tennis just seems weird to me. Sorry, that's just my bias. I've never been able to get into it.
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Irrelevant exhibition?? Come on now, it's waaay more important than that.

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Re: How IMPORTANT is WTF? Is it = a grand slam?

I have noticed a sudden surge in the discussion about the importance of WTF. There are a few threads already. Curious, should Nadal win it this year or whenever, will we still be discussing it?

As for the question at hand, it is no where close to a slam title win (not even close). I would put the Olympics above it, because winning all slams and Olympics gets you the title of golden slam. I have never seen people talk about WTF and slam combination in that regard.
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It was the same thing with the US Open, when Nadal hadn't won it, there were the will he/won't he polls. IF he does, maybe the attention will shift to Miami or Cincinnati.

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I have noticed a sudden surge in the discussion about the importance of WTF. There are a few threads already. Curious, should Nadal win it this year or whenever, will we still be discussing it?

As for the question at hand, it is no where close to a slam title win (not even close). I would put the Olympics above it, because winning all slams and Olympics gets you the title of golden slam. I have never seen people talk about WTF and slam combination in that regard.
^This. It's a nice season ender bonus but I barely consider it more worthwhile than a regular MS and not close to the level of a Slam nor even an Olympic Gold.

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I have noticed a sudden surge in the discussion about the importance of WTF. There are a few threads already. Curious, should Nadal win it this year or whenever, will we still be discussing it?

As for the question at hand, it is no where close to a slam title win (not even close). I would put the Olympics above it, because winning all slams and Olympics gets you the title of golden slam. I have never seen people talk about WTF and slam combination in that regard.
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To me personally, I love WTF more than some of the slams because its only the top 8 in a round-robin format which means they don't go out after losing just a single match. The only problem is that it is best of 3 sets.

It's a great mini-grand to wrap up the year at London, BUT why do players often ignore WTF? Andy Roddick last year didn't bother to show up (now he might never get the privilege again) and all the other players didn't step up their game or played seriously enough letting Davydenko win it.

How important is WTF to the players, it is 1500 ATP points after all.

To solve this problem of players not caring enough, would it be good for ATP to upgrade WTF into a Grand Slam, make it worth 2000 points,This could be a good idea and give it the media coverage of a slam? It would be the indoor grand slam for the top players.
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For Rafa it should be a dream to complete this beautiful year, in this way.

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WTF is worth 1500 points, that pretty darn close to a grand slam points and is the biggest tournament outside a GS.

I think they should just upgrade it to a indoor Grand Slam worth 2000 points and make it best of 5. This would actually make the indoor season matter.

Pretty close to a GS points? Yep, sure, the same close distance to a MS 1000.

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Re: How IMPORTANT is WTF? Is it = a grand slam?

It's great for the players, plenty of points, ublicity and $$, but otherwise, it means nothing in the history of the game, the past editions are more forgettable even than masters. Maybe they should do a joint WTA/ATP event.
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