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Why Tennis is Killing Itself

It's sad to see. But in the past 20 years, the courts have become very slow and matches are becoming unwatchable with defensive players getting to shots that should be winners. Add to that horrible TV coverage, bad calendar scheduling, no real grass court season, and tennis is slowly making itself an irrelevant sport.

Guys such as Nadal, Murray, and Djokovic are all very talented. But if they get everything back due to courts being slow, that really does not bode too well for other players and fans in general. The contrast is simply not there. People don't serve and volley anymore. Servers can't even win matches against average people these days. Take Roddick. A few years ago, he would have never lost to a Tipsarevic. Now all his serves coming back and he is exposed badly.

As a fan of sport of tennis, it's sad to see everything slowing down. And the laws not being enforced (time wasting between points, fake injuries, abuse of rules) is making the sport look bad. And ATP does not like McEnroe type personalities anymore, which is why top tennis athletes fail to show up on the front page of magazines such as ESPN or SI.

Last night's coverage of US Open final and getting cut off by NFL or whatever it was after confirmed tennis' fall from grace with networks here in America. Tennis does not need to focus on keeping its current ratings. It needs to focus on bringing more people to table, let people have their personalities, get fans involved, get people excited about our sport again. And 30 minute women's final matches have not helped.

How can we fix this?

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If you are over the age of 10, I feel sorry for you.
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If you are over the age of 10, I feel sorry for you.
What did I say this time?

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People don't serve and volley anymore.
This has nothing to do with (allegedly) "slow" courts, and everything with improved racket technology that allows much more concise returns with far less effort.

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It's only going to become worse in the future. I'm scared to see how racquet string and frame technology will continue to "improve" and what little skill and talent players will have to have to trash the ball with incredible power and spin- often leading to miserable matches.

How to redirect the course that tennis is headed in? Perhaps by taking a set backwards and increasing surface variation, as well as limiting the influence of technology on the sport in the future. But will that happen? Casual fans have become accostumed to watching long rallies and following a select elite few who do well on all surfaces.

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Honestly man, how many threads are you going to start to make the same points?
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This has nothing to do with (allegedly) "slow" courts, and everything with improved racket technology that allows much more concise returns with far less effort.
You can't make a "concise return" if you can't get to the ball. Unless of course you're saying that racket technology is increasing the speed of the person holding it, that's some hi-tech technology!
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It's sad to see. But in the past 20 years, the courts have become very slow and matches are becoming unwatching with defensive players getting to shots that should be winners. Add to that horrible TV coverage, bad calendar scheduling, no real grass court season, and tennis is slowly making itself an irrelevant sport.

Guys such as Nadal, Murray, and Djokovic are all very talented. But if they get everything back due to courts being slow, that really does not bode too well for other players and fans in general. The contrast is simply not there. People don't serve and volley anymore. Servers can't even win matches against average people these days. Take Roddick. A few years ago, he would have never lost to a Tipsarevic. Now all his serves coming back and he is exposed badly.

As a fan of sport of tennis, it's sad to see everything slowing down. And the laws not being enforced (time wasting between points, fake injuries, abuse of rules) is making the sport look bad. And ATP does not like McEnroe type personalities anymore, which is why top tennis athletes fail to show up on the front page of magazines such as ESPN or SI.

How can we fix this?
Don't watch tennis if it's so bad. I think tennis is as exciting as it has ever been

And by the way, Andy lost to Tipsarevic a few years ago, genius.

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Honestly man, how many threads are you going to start to make the same points?
You just hate me and keep attacking me without any base. When did I say these points? Quote me.

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This has nothing to do with (allegedly) "slow" courts, and everything with improved racket technology that allows much more concise returns with far less effort.
I think you mean 'precise'?

Tennis has Great Games & Great Personalities.

We also have Andy Murray.
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Don't watch tennis if it's so bad. I think tennis is as exciting as it has ever been

And by the way, Andy lost to Tipsarevic a few years ago, genius.
At Wimbledon. Massive choke job by Andy and the courts were slow back then too!!

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tennis has never been more interesting and todays tennis players are the best of any era
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You just hate me and keep attacking me without any base.
All you're doing is making thread after thread about how much you dislike Nadal's tennis and hate the state of tennis these days. Just the same whining wrapped in different words.

"Hate me"? A touch overdramatic aren't we?
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tennis has never been more interesting and todays tennis players are the best of any era
Maybe. Or maybe it's just the courts and technology...

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Usually people wait until they are 60 to start complaining the world is going to hell.



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