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Question Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Before this US Open I heard talk that Murray, Djokovic, Del Potro were all better hardcourt players than Rafa.

Rafa has an Australian Open, Gold Medal, US Open, more impressive achievements than those of Djokovic (AO Champion, doubleUSO Finalist), Murray (AO Finalust, USO Finalist), Del Potro (USO Champion) on hardcourts. So where do you rank Rafa now on hardcourts? Does him completing these hardcourt achievements make a difference
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Perhaps Djokovic, Murray and del Potro have games better suited for hard courts but career wise Nadal is ahead of them even on this surface. Nadal always seems to be improving and the Nadal of today is so much better than the young man who started dominating the clay courts in 05. He has come a long way. Today his game looks so much better on hard courts.
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

I am certainly not a Rafa fan and it was painful to know that there had to be a winner in this particular USO final. However, Rafa's achievements speak for themselves. You can go on about technique, easy draws, lack of competition but that's just all non-substantive fluff. The fact is that when it comes big HC tournaments, Nadal's wins dwarf those of Djokovic, Murray and certainly Del Potro.
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

davydenko is better then murray on HC
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Rafa's achievements say it all
2 HC Grand Slams and Olympic Games gold medal

Rafael Nadal
CAREER GOLDEN GRAND SLAM
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66 Titles | 27 Masters 1000 |Olympic Games Singles Gold Medalist | 139 Weeks at no.1
3 year end no.1 | 4 Davis Cups | 739 singles match wins
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

As of now, yes.

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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Yes, Nadal is the best on all surfaces. Even if tennis was played on ice with skates and with a puck instead of a ball, Nadal would be the best.
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Would Nadal beat Borg at hockey?
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He is not better than Del Potro !
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Yes, he is.

Maybe not consistency, but achievements, you bet.
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

I wouldn't say categorically so but in finals he's a different beast, whether it's cement, dirt, quicksand or bubblewrap.
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

Yep, just like Del Potro is the best on grass and Murray is the best on clay out of those lot.

Seriously, achievement wise I think it may be Djokovic now, but then Nadal does have that Gold medal...
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

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Yep, just like Del Potro is the best on grass and Murray is the best on clay out of those lot.

Seriously, achievement wise it's obvious he is though.
explain this please?
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Re: Is Rafa a better hardcourt player than Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro?

sucks nadal

Nadal "Sampras, Ivanisevic match. or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable. It's not really tennis. it is a few swings of the racquet. For me in the past it was just serve. serve". arrogance.

clay excluded. successive win 0.  If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay. power of defense and muscles. boring ugly. All the surface is slow now.

fake time-out. cheat. gamesmanship. too noisy annoying always. excuse. boycotts threatened. always dissatisfaction cry complaints. dissatisfaction to schedule. selfish two-year ranking. bump to player. ugly protest. always exaggerated appeal of self condition. etc. overrated by fanatic arrogant blind fan
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