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How can anyone argue that Federer is better than Nadal?

I dont understand how people can argue that Federer is better than Nadal when Nadal has consistently beaten him. I know head to head matches are not necessdarily the best predictors of who is the better, especially when there have only been a few matches played (ie. Andy Roddick 2-1 over Sampras and Krajicek 6-4 over Sampras which was relatively close) but Nadal and Federer have played 21 times!!! and Nadal has beat him 14-7. When comparing two players in terms of who is better, it seems that numerous head-to-head matches would signify who is better...the better player wins many more times.

So how can people argue that Federer is a better player, when Nadal has beaten him so many times? I mean even in the Sampras-Agassi rivalry sampras only beat Agassi 20-14 and everyone knows that Sampras was an overall better player but Nadal has won twice as much as Federer when they play each other!!!

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Re: How can anyone argue that Federer is better than Nadal?

Fraduerina is just an arrogant snob, he has nothing on the TRUE SPARTAN WARRIOR, the GOAT, Rafa "God" Nadal.

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I dont understand how people can argue that Federer is better than Nadal when Nadal has consistently beaten him. I know head to head matches are not necessdarily the best predictors of who is the better, especially when there have only been a few matches player (ie. Andy Roddick 2-1over Sampras and Krajicek 6-4 over Sampras which was relatively close) but Nadal and Federer have played 21 times!!! and Nadal has beat him 14-7. When comparing two players in terms of who is better, it seems that numerous head-to-head matches would signify who is better...the better player wins many more times.

So how can people argue that Federer is a better player, when Nadal has beaten him so many times? I mean even in the Sampras-Agassi rivalry sampras only beat Agassi 20-14 and everyone knows that Sampras was an overall better player but Nadal has won twice as much as Federer when they play each other!!!
It's all about match ups. Roger is like 0-3 against Simons. Is Gilles better than Roger? Sampras was like 1-2 against Gaudinzi. Or Murray is like 7-5 against Roger. Is he better? How about Novak vs. let's say Roddick

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Re: How can anyone argue that Federer is better than Nadal?

good thread OP! How can people say Frauderer is better than Gilles Simon, he's never even beaten him!! I think the GOAT order goes Nadal > Simon > Federer, with other players somewhere in between. Anyone from the past doesn't count because tennis was not a sport until all the surfaces were exactly the same, to ensure the rise of the great one Nadal!
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It's all about match ups. Roger is like 0-3 against Simons. Is Gilles better than Roger? Sampras was like 1-2 against Gaudinzi. Or Murray is like 7-5 against Roger. Is he better? How about Novak vs. let's say Roddick
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sums up the point. even nadal considers himself less than roger. no point arguing
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Re: How can anyone argue that Federer is better than Nadal?

If you read my original post I specifically stated that HEAD-TO-HEAD record is not a good measure if there have only been a few matches.... 21 head to head matches is enough to determine who is a better player. Nadal has beaten Federer many times over many matches...
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good thread OP! How can people say Frauderer is better than Gilles Simon, he's never even beaten him!! I think the GOAT order goes Nadal > Simon > Federer, with other players somewhere in between. Anyone from the past doesn't count because tennis was not a sport until all the surfaces were exactly the same, to ensure the rise of the great one Nadal!
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So how can people argue that Federer is a better player, when Nadal has beaten him so many times? I mean even in the Sampras-Agassi rivalry sampras only beat Agassi 20-14 and everyone knows that Sampras was an overall better player but Nadal has won twice as much as Federer when they play each other!!!
Everyone knows Sampras was better because of his vastly superior achievements. When Nadal comes close to achieving what Federer has, then you may have an argument, until then, yours, and threads like yours will be pure rafatard circle-jerking.

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Actually no one can.
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Re: How can anyone argue that Federer is better than Nadal?

nadal is better than federer




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