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Clay Warrior's Total Slam Count At the End Of 2011

what is the likely total slam count for the clay warrior king of tennis at the end of 2011?

i think he will be sitting on 11 slams. even 12 is a possibility if everything falls in place for him.

what are your thoughts?

is 11 a lock at least?

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what is the likely total slam count for the clay warrior king of tennis at the end of 2011?

i think he will be sitting on 11 slams. even 12 is a possibility if everything falls in place for him.

what are your thoughts?

is 11 a lock at least?

forget 2011. You think he is winning tomorrow for sure?

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yes he is. #9 is in the bag.

there is no way he can be stopped tomorrow.

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Barring injury, at least 10.

11 is possible.

12 might be pushing it.

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agreed jonathan.

we have to give him the french open and wimbledon next year. that makes 11.


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yes he is. #9 is in the bag.

there is no way he can be stopped tomorrow.
can you tell me why are you so sure? I never thought novak could beat fed. Hell I lost all my vcash

Dont give me the "he will be tired" crap. He is 23 and Im sure he will suck it up and play hard. Lets assume he will somehow be fresh tomorrow. Also its going to rain tomorrow - so there might be some interruptions and that will only help novak.

Rafa hasnt played anyone in this tournament quite the caliber of Novak. Novaks two handed backhand will more often than not punish Rafa's forehand as the ball doesnt bounce much here and its in Novaks hitting zone. Alos, Novak is a great returner and he will punish Rafa's second serve. Lastly Novak thrive son fast hard courts and his game is ideally suited for this surface. With so many and other related factors how can you be so sure.

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RG should be a lock, but I dunno about Wimbledon, CD. Should he win tomorrow, which he should, as well as take the French next year, that's 10.

That gives him AO, Wimbledon, and USO to win one to get to 11 and tie Borg, which I think he *can* do, barring injury, which is always the biggest question mark for him.

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can you tell me why are you so sure? I never thought novak could beat fed. Hell I lost all my vcash

Dont give me the "he will be tired" crap. He is 23 and Im sure he will suck it up and play hard. Lets assume he will somehow be fresh tomorrow. Also its going to rain tomorrow - so there might be some interruptions and that will only help novak.

Rafa hasnt played anyone in this tournament quite the caliber of Novak. Novaks two handed backhand will more often than not punish Rafa's forehand as the ball doesnt bounce much here and its in Novaks hitting zone. Alos, Novak is a great returner and he will punish Rafa's second serve. Lastly Novak thrive son fast hard courts and his game is ideally suited for this surface. With so many and other related factors how can you be so sure.

Juts for this messsage lose your unrelentless will, clay warrior gets what he wants and other dramatic lingo.


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can you tell me why are you so sure? I never thought novak could beat fed. Hell I lost all my vcash

Dont give me the "he will be tired" crap. He is 23 and Im sure he will suck it up and play hard. Lets assume he will somehow be fresh tomorrow. Also its going to rain tomorrow - so there might be some interruptions and that will only help novak.

Rafa hasnt played anyone in this tournament quite the caliber of Novak. Novaks two handed backhand will more often than not punish Rafa's forehand as the ball doesnt bounce much here and its in Novaks hitting zone. Alos, Novak is a great returner and he will punish Rafa's second serve. Lastly Novak thrive son fast hard courts and his game is ideally suited for this surface. With so many and other related factors how can you be so sure.

Juts for this messsage lose your unrelentless will, clay warrior gets what he wants and other dramatic lingo.
Agreed. I think OP is forgetting that Djokovic is possibly the best HC player in the tour at the moment. He may not be as mentally strong as Nadal but he is not a Soderling or Berdych. Djokovic knows how to win when it matters and that's how he won AO. If Fed had won today, I would have given Nadal a better chance of winning tomorrow.

Having said this, I hope Nadal wins. We'll just have to wait and see.
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11 seems possible given the current state of things.
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13. Nadal is winning everything next year. At the end of 2012 he'll be at 17 slams.
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Del potro is completing the career slam in 2011.

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But he lost 23 times against you.
's right. We have to also throw into the mix. But I do not think it is currently the decisive factor. But he has achieved in my opinion too much. Maybe this is crucial if I move him even closer after major victories. But 14 or 17 Grand Slam titles is a significant difference. At the present time there is no question that he must be the greater player than me.

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Agreed. I think OP is forgetting that Djokovic is possibly the best HC player in the tour at the moment. He may not be as mentally strong as Nadal but he is not a Soderling or Berdych. Djokovic knows how to win when it matters and that's how he won AO. If Fed had won today, I would have given Nadal a better chance of winning tomorrow.

Having said this, I hope Nadal wins. We'll just have to wait and see.
It would be historic for Rafa to win tomorrow. Just that I am surprised a vast majority of people are just so sure. Its not just OP. Look up other websites, polls, bookies, experts and everybody is thinking this match is just little more than a formality. I have seen Novak trouble Rafa no end even on clay. On hard courts he has dominated Rafa. This match is scary and I am very afraid. Just puzzled mostly by the bookies for thsi match (1.30 for Rafa and 3.50 for Novak). WTF?

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It would be historic for Rafa to win tomorrow. Just that I am surprised a vast majority of people are just so sure. Its not just OP. Look up other websites, polls, bookies, experts and everybody is thinking this match is just little more than a formality. I have seen Novak trouble Rafa no end even on clay. On hard courts he has dominated Rafa. This match is scary and I am very afraid. Just puzzled mostly by the bookies for thsi match (1.30 for Rafa and 3.50 for Novak). WTF?
I think the assumption is that Djokovic is going to be exhausted and Nadal is as fresh as ever.
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2010 USO- Nadal
2011 AO- Djokovic
2011 RG- Nadal
2011 Wb- Soderling
2011 USO- Djokovic

My take... notice I gave up on Murray at last this year...
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