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If Federer defeat Nadal in final...

First of all , right now I don't think the Federer-Nadal thing is as important as it was because of Federer's age.As unfair as it might sound , a Federer loss would mean a lot less than a Federer win.Here's something I thought about about the Federer defat Nadal scenario.If Nadal loses to Federer in the final of arguably the best surface of Federer , it means all those losses at Rolland Garros just advantage Federer because he was able to reach the fight vs Nadal , to the contrary of Nadal that just reach the us open final one time and getting beat , which would suggest he would have lost in past years vs Federer at us open because Federer was in better form past few years.Sure this is just food for thoughts but this match could be very important.Best of luck to both of them.
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He'll maintain his GOAT status for a little while longer apparently until Nadal defeats him again in another Grand Slam final lol

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Despite what everybody says , I think Federer was always stronger at the Us Open than at Wimbledon because of better competition at the US open.So if Federer beat Nadal at the Us Open it's his own Rolland Garros , so we have to look at wimbledon and AO for neutral ground and it's 2-2.
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People are underrating Nole and assuming Fed already has final in the bag. Remember he beat him in SF once and he can do so again. Go Djoker!
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Everyone's saying Federer is going to win USO. I'm not saying that he won't. He is the big favorite to win the slam. Still, I would like Nadal to win just to prove the haters wrong. If he'll manage to do it any year, it should be this year. Draw has been favorable, he's already reached the SF, his game has improved a lot and he looks healthy.

So yeah, I'm not counting out Nadal just yet. I think it'll be tight, and probably go to 5, if we are to get a Fedal final again.

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The outcome of a Fedal final obviously means a whole lot to both of them. Federer would finally beat his nemesis in a GS final again and Nadal would complete the career grand slam.

However, in terms of the overall GOAT debate I don't think it's that important. Nadal is at the peak of his career and Federer is way past his peak, so a Nadal victory wouldn't mean much in the overall Fed-Nadal debate. On the other hand a Federer win wouldn't mean much either as Federer has always been the far more accomplished player on fast hardcourts.

So regardless of outcome of Fedal final:

Nadal >>> Federer on clay
Federer >> Nadal on fast hardcourts
Federer > Nadal on grass
Federer = Nadal on slow hardcourts

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Everyone's saying Federer is going to win USO.
I thought everybody was saying that Nadal will win. I know I am. I personally think that Djokovic is the biggest threat to Nadal winning, not Federer who has to be close to his peak to beat Nadal due to mathup issues.

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First of all , right now I don't think the Federer-Nadal thing is as important as it was because of Federer's age.
Do you think Federer's "age" (which allowed him to win 3 grand slams in the past 18 months) hurts Federer more than making the last 6 US Open Finals helps him? Relatively speaking, Nadal is a US Open novice, and lacks experience HEAVILY enough to make him a massive underdog.
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I thought everybody was saying that Nadal will win. I know I am. I personally think that Djokovic is the biggest threat to Nadal winning, not Federer who has to be close to his peak to beat Nadal due to mathup issues.
If this was a MS 1000 tourney on a HC, then yes, Nole is a nightmare of an opponent for Rafa, he has a 7-3 advantage against Rafa on HC, winning the last 3 matches in a row they have played.

BUT...this is a grand slam final, best of 5 sets, I doubt that Nole has the mental strength and physical endurance to keep up with Rafa over 5 sets, it just seems to be too tough a task for Nole to handle, but we will just wait and see, we "could" be in for a shock.

Nole has NEVER beaten Rafa in a big match or in a final (Hamburg 2008 SF, Queens 2008 Final, 2008 Olympics SF, Madrid 2009 SF, French Open 2006, 2007, 2008 and the Wimbledon match in 2007 where Nole retired in the 3rd set because he was injured or exhausted).

I agree that Nole has the game to pulverise Rafa on this surface, but Rafa will just be too tough in a grand slam final, he has an 8-2 W/L record in grand slam finals, should a Nole/Rafa US Open final take place, I will pick Rafa to win in 4 sets. Don't get me wrong, Nole is my 2nd favourite player, so I'm not hating on him at all, just that I'm telling it the way I see it.

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If this was a MS 1000 tourney on a HC, then yes, Nole is a nightmare of an opponent for Rafa, he has a 7-3 advantage against Rafa on HC, winning the last 3 matches in a row they have played.

BUT...this is a grand slam final, best of 5 sets, I doubt that Nole has the mental strength and physical endurance to keep up with Rafa over 5 sets, it just seems to be too tough a task for Nole to handle, but we will just wait and see, we "could" be in for a shock.

Nole has NEVER beaten Rafa in a big match or in a final (Hamburg 2008 SF, Queens 2008 Final, 2008 Olympics SF, Madrid 2009 SF, French Open 2006, 2007, 2008 and the Wimbledon match in 2007 where Nole retired in the 3rd set because he was injured or exhausted).

I agree that Nole has the game to pulverise Rafa on this surface, but Rafa will just be too tough in a grand slam final, he has an 8-2 W/L record in grand slam finals, should a Nole/Rafa US Open final take place, I will pick Rafa to win in 4 sets. Don't get me wrong, Nole is my 2nd favourite player, so I'm not hating on him at all, just that I'm telling it the way I see it.

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I agree, especially if Djokovic misses a lot of 1st serves, that makes it a lot easier.
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I'll be so glad when this slam is over so people will stop making all these pointless threads

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I'll be so glad when this slam is over so people will stop making all these pointless threads
LOL if we get a certain result in this US Open final there will be MASSIVE SPECULATION threads about the Australian Open beginning next week
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If this was a MS 1000 tourney on a HC, then yes, Nole is a nightmare of an opponent for Rafa, he has a 7-3 advantage against Rafa on HC, winning the last 3 matches in a row they have played.

BUT...this is a grand slam final, best of 5 sets, I doubt that Nole has the mental strength and physical endurance to keep up with Rafa over 5 sets, it just seems to be too tough a task for Nole to handle, but we will just wait and see, we "could" be in for a shock.

Nole has NEVER beaten Rafa in a big match or in a final (Hamburg 2008 SF, Queens 2008 Final, 2008 Olympics SF, Madrid 2009 SF, French Open 2006, 2007, 2008 and the Wimbledon match in 2007 where Nole retired in the 3rd set because he was injured or exhausted).

I agree that Nole has the game to pulverise Rafa on this surface, but Rafa will just be too tough in a grand slam final, he has an 8-2 W/L record in grand slam finals, should a Nole/Rafa US Open final take place, I will pick Rafa to win in 4 sets. Don't get me wrong, Nole is my 2nd favourite player, so I'm not hating on him at all, just that I'm telling it the way I see it.

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Oh, I agree. I wasn't implying that Djokovic would beat Nadal, I would heavily favour Nadal in a Nadal-Djokovic final. I just think that Djokovic has a better chance against Nadal than Federer or Youzhny. Generally, I would be extremely surprised if Nadal doesn't win the US Open. He's been my favourite to win since before the tournament started and my heavy favourite to win ever since Murray lost.

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LOL if we get a certain result in this US Open final there will be MASSIVE SPECULATION threads about the Australian Open beginning next week
Hopefully massive speculation about Delpo coming back and blasting Rafa off hard courts again.

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