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UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

Here's a link to an article in today's UK Daily Telegraph on the failure of Andy Murray to win a Slam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ten...ng-a-star.html

I could never make my mind up whether Andy was likely to win a Slam or not but from before Wimbledon 2009 to this year's tournament I came to believe he could.

Unfortunately I don't see it now - I think this article has hit the nail on the head.
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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

It's a good article. I like reading the tennis section of the Telegraph.

Nonetheless I do think that there is a tendency in the British press to over-analyse sporting performance - primarily (though not exclusively) this is largely attributable to multiple failures and high national expectations.

Perhaps tennis observers, analysts, commentators and even players should take a step back and look at things from a different angle. While success in the sport is mostly due to skill and talent, a result in a given match is the result of a multitude of factors: physical fitness, mentality, strategic match-up with the opponent, external / atmospheric conditions and a degree of randomness are but some of these. A small tinkering with any of these variables can lead to multiplied effects that can influence a small number of important points in a match that can, as a result, affect the outcome either way.

Murray in my opinion is good enough to win a slam; he has even put himself to within 3 sets of winning one on 2 separate occasions. But that he hasn't translated it into a victory yet is nothing to be unduly alarmed with. Not only has he the misfortune of playing in the Fedal era, but perhaps equally as pertinently, the repeated 'failure' of bringing together all elements of success (as mentioned above) might have resulted in one bad performance in the entire tournament and thus for the slam trophy to elude him.

People need to appreciate that just because some things should or might happen, doesn't necessarily mean that they will happen. Indeed if that were the case, then I think a number of posters would state that Gaudio should not have won a slam. On a wider point there is a case for stating that we are all fooled by randomness to some degree.

The way I see it is that if Murray wins a Grand Slam tournament or two (bearing in mind that he still has a fair few years left in him) then great - I don't think there is a case that he doesn't merit the achievement. But if it doesn't happen sometime in his career then it is just one of those things that you have to accept. Given his non-Slam success, he can certainly be proud of what he has achieved thus far.
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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

I commented on this subject in another thread so I'm not going to repeat myself, but I did find this article a good read. The last paragraph in particular made me laugh; I wonder in all seriousness if this was possible, how well Murray would do?

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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

I was a good article, it was also a witty article.

But in the end it was a typically British article. That is, the British media thrive on these sort of scenarios where the Great British hope fails to deliver at the critical moment.

There have been many successes by British sportsmen over the last 10 years ranging from Athletics to Rugby to Cycling to Formula One. Or is that "Unbritish" to actually have winners?
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I was a good article, it was also a witty article.

But in the end it was a typically British article. That is, the British media thrive on these sort of scenarios where the Great British hope fails to deliver at the critical moment.

There have been many successes by British sportsmen over the last 10 years ranging from Athletics to Rugby to Cycling to Formula One. Or is that "Unbritish" to actually have winners?
What would we do if we actually won something major? I don't think we'd know where to put ourselves!

Having said that, our performance at the last Olympics was very good, much better than expected - but mostly in lesser known or lesser-supported sports. Maybe that's the key!

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TT Doubles: Current: 156/301 (07.03.11). Peak: 156/301 (07.03.11). Best: W Asuncion (w/IgorBr) W Sheffield (w/jazar)
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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

Andy will still win slams.

I don't see why everyone is worrying.

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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

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I was a good article, it was also a witty article.

But in the end it was a typically British article. That is, the British media thrive on these sort of scenarios where the Great British hope fails to deliver at the critical moment.

There have been many successes by British sportsmen over the last 10 years ranging from Athletics to Rugby to Cycling to Formula One. Or is that "Unbritish" to actually have winners?
It's a bit unfortunate, but performance on the football pitch in major competitions seems to set the temperament of the majority (or at least the most vocal) sports journalists. Murray is a victim of it in as much the cricket, snooker, rugby, rowing, swimming, cycling and Formula 1 sports men and women are.
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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

The point made about Murray in relation to his mindset when he's facing Nadal is a very good one.

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Andy will still win slams.

I don't see why everyone is worrying.
when did he ever start winning slams?
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when did he ever start winning slams?
Since you couldn't understand what I said, I'll put it more simpler for you.

Despite his US Open loss, Murray will still win a slam.

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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

Good article, especially the analysis of the way he plays Nadal. It's true. he thinks he can outlast everyone else, so why goon the offensive. But he did this summer, so...

Andy's a conundrum. I knew the British media was going to get all over him. It's their way.

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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

i agree with one thing - his problem is being british.

i'm not even exposed to the british media that much, and i'm sick of how they go into analyzing every single aspect of his life and game. this article being no exception.

murray should go live on a farm in kazakhstan, he'd be a national davis cup hero and a multiple grand slam winner.

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I hate it how Murray always plays out of his mind against Nadal. Even on Nadal's good surface (grass) it was very close
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Re: UK Newspaper Article on Andy Murray's Slam Failure

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Andy will still win slams.

I don't see why everyone is worrying.
To be fair, you said he'd win the two latest slams and he's failed miserably so far.

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That is why Murray decided to injure himself and Djokovic, to help Berdych.

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We should be appreciative of Federer though, because we will never see anything like him again. The fact he can still compete for slams ever after the erosion of his physical skills is really a greater testament to the natural talent he has than the period of time when he was dominating the tour.
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