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Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

When asked about why he thought so many Spaniards are into the last few rounds of USO. (He also said that tennis facilities are cheaper and more widespread in Spain, so cost is lower and easier for young players to learn)

He says that playing Nadal on hard is essentially equivalent to playing Nadal on clay now.

And he also said that "even" Montanes can make 4R of USO is evidence to show that USO courts are slowing down.

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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

The Colonel knows of which he speaks. ATP's favoritism of the Nadull is legendary. I would expect within 5 years that all hardcourts will be claycourts to appease the cowardly Nadull.



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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

Sounds like he's just hatin' on the Spanish.

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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

What is next? Extra points for bulky huge left arms?
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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

Colonel is crazy, these courts are blazing fast compared to the warm up tournaments to it. And he is way off on Montanes. As much as I love Albert, his draw being a huge joke is more of a reason than the courts being slower
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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

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Colonel is crazy, these courts are blazing fast compared to the warm up tournaments to it. And he is way off on Montanes. As much as I love Albert, his draw being a huge joke is more of a reason than the courts being slower
He wasn't talking about the US Open courts. He was saying that a lot of hard courts are slower, therefore clay court players have adapted their games to hardcourt and are capable on the surface, whereas in the past there was bigger difference in speed. The flipside is clay courts have sped up.
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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

He spoke about the hardcourts in particlar which are getting slower....not US Open
However I still expect fedtards to jump on rafa hating without looking up the actual interview...
If Montanes reaches 4th round of Us Open...good for him..Does that mean USO is slow as clay..To say that is fckin disrespectful to Albert who might've worked his ass off to get there...3 of the Top 10 are spanish... How does the Colonel find it amusing that 3 Top 10 players are doing well on hardcourts... :retard:

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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

Here's what he said:

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Q. There were six Spanish guys that made it to the round of 16. As somebody on the tour, any explanation for why one country that's not that huge has so much success?

MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: Yeah, now it's a lot of Spanish guys. They play really, really well. Why? I think we -- actually, they have a lot of courts; they have a lot of good facilities to practice well. I think it's not really expensive to practice in Spain for Spanish people. In Russia now it's much expensive to practice in Moscow. Not everybody can do this one. I think this is my point, and they have actually really good school, I mean, tennis school in Spain. Before they have only good results in clay, but now, my opinion, it's all hard courts going a little bit slower to previous years. That's why they can play also well on hard court.

Q. Is there anything that when you face these guys they have in common, like something you know you're going to get from somebody? I know they're real good on clay, but is there anything they seem to all do well?

MIKHAIL YOUZHNY: No. It's just I tell before maybe they play much better on clay or indoor or hard court, but now I think it's not big different between Nadal and clay court. Of course some different, but not so different like was previous years when indoors courts was faster. And like when they play I think Bruguera, Berasategui it was more different than now. Now Ferrer, he has really good results on hard court. Nadal, Verdasco, Lopez even play better in hard court maybe. Montanes pass three rounds here; Robredo I think almost every round pass three rounds here. So that's why start play really good hard court, as well.
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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

The truth is, about 75% of the courts seem to be around the same speed. You can play traditional clay court tennis on hard, and you can play traditional hard court tennis on clay, there isn't the same variance in court and how they play. There are several threads in this forum on this subject, basically touching on the little variety in the game in all aspects. Of course if we as fans see it, the players know it too.
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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

He wasn't even discussing the US Open, as others have said, which some say is even faster this year than previous years. Cue the "Nadal's quest for CGS is illegitimate" comments, oh wait, they already started in post #2.
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The truth is, about 75% of the courts seem to be around the same speed. You can play traditional clay court tennis on hard, and you can play traditional hard court tennis on clay, there isn't the same variance in court and how they play. There are several threads in this forum on this subject, basically touching on the little variety in the game in all aspects. Of course if we as fans see it, the players know it too.
Yeah, it seems to be that all courts have become more and more similar. It's probably intentional too. Clay courters seem to be benefiting the most from it, but that could be because of the refusal Americans seem to have on learning to play on clay.
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Re: Colonel: Hard courts getting slower

I miss the slow clay fast grass days.

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The Colonel knows of which he speaks. ATP's favoritism of the Nadull is legendary. I would expect within 5 years that all hardcourts will be claycourts to appease the cowardly Nadull.

5 years? lol in 5 years, rafa'll be 29.. pray tell, why would he wait til he's over the hill and well past his prime to bring about this so-called masterplan?

i.e., if rafa's indeed as all-powerful, feared, and omnipotent as you suggest, then all slams would already be played on clay.. <open mouth, insert foot>

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5 years? lol in 5 years, rafa'll be 29.. pray tell, why would he wait til he's over the hill and well past his prime to bring about this so-called masterplan?

i.e., if rafa's indeed as all-powerful, feared, and omnipotent as you suggest, then all slams would already be played on clay.. <open mouth, insert foot>
Within 5 years mate. Means it could be sooner but no later than 5 years.



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Sounds like he's just hatin' on the Spanish.
Read the interview. He speaks high about Spanish tennis school. He didn't say anything disrespectful about Montanes and/or Robredo. He only tried to make a point that Spanish players achieve higher results on hard courts now in comparison with great Spanish players of the past who didn't do so well on hard courts. That's all.

Stop bashing a player for trying to express his professional opinion.
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