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The players that as good on hard as they are on clay

Were the great players who are as good on hard as on clay. Nadal and Borg are good on clay and grass, there are plenty players who are great on both hard and grass. But what about clay and hard, for me Djokovic springs to mind.
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Re: The players that as good on hard as on clay

Roddick has several clay titles
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Re: The players that as good on hard as they are on clay

current generation? Rafa, Roger, Nole, Kolya, Juan

Kuerten was no hard mug either, Courier was good in both as well, Lendl, Connors...

Rafael "The Matador of Spin" Nadal
Roger “The Magician of Precision” Federer
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current generation? Rafa, Roger, Nole, Kolya, Juan

Kuerten was no hard mug either, Courier was good in both as well, Lendl, Connors...
Parera is not as good on hard as on clay, Federer is not as good on clay as on hard. Agree with the rest though
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current generation? Rafa, Roger, Nole, Kolya, Juan

Kuerten was no hard mug either, Courier was good in both as well, Lendl, Connors...
Yeah but the players in bold are clearly better at one surface than the other. I think the OP is after players who are more or less equally good at both. I think that Davydenko is a good candidate as he's got two semis at Roland Garros and the US Open. Djokovic as well.

Further down the rankings, I think Fernando Gonzalez has similar records on clay and hard. Also David Ferrer.

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Parera is not as good on hard as on clay, Federer is not as good on clay as on hard. Agree with the rest though
Roger is better on clay than Guga on hard, whom only won one big tournament on hard, no GS finals outside of clay for him either

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Nalbandian, Verdasco, Ferrero

Rafael "The Matador of Spin" Nadal
Roger “The Magician of Precision” Federer
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Parera is not as good on hard as on clay, Federer is not as good on clay as on hard. Agree with the rest though
Roger is a very good candidate for this category.. I mean he has only really lost to ONE player. If Nadal wasn't in on the scene and Roger won all those titles on clay, I don't think there would be many doubting his ability on clay.

But if you insist he isn't a good choice, like previous posters have posted, Djokovic/Davydenko are good picks. While Soderling hasn't really had big success on clay in MS events, we all know his success at Roland Garros, so he could be a recent candidate for this question.

Federer / Haas / Safin / Gaudio / Kuerten / Youzhny / Nadal / Gonzalez / Ljubicic / Hewitt / Soderling / Wawrinka / Coria / Nalbandian / Kohlschreiber
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Re: The players that as good on hard as they are on clay

how can anyone say nadal is a good player on hardcourt?
have u been living under a rock the last 18 months?
he hasnt won anything on hardcourt in 18 months.
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Re: The players that as good on hard as they are on clay

who has equally great results on hard, grass and clay?
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Parera is not as good on hard as on clay
No, but still his record on HC is better than Murray's, the same as Roddick's and not too shorter than Djokovic. Not bad for 'not being as good'.
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who has equally great results on hard, grass and clay?
no one
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No, but still his record on HC is better than Murray's, the same as Roddick's and not too shorter than Djokovic. Not bad for 'not being as good'.
You're kidding right? Even if you think Roddick blows, do you really think Nadal has had a career as good as Roddick's on HC already? Roddick has had 7 QF/4 SF/1 F/1 W at the Australian Open/US Open combined. Nadal on the other hand has only had 3 QF/3 SF/1 W at the two events. Yes he obviously has a chance to surpass Roddick in totally achievements on HC, but to say that they are even right now is a joke.

Federer / Haas / Safin / Gaudio / Kuerten / Youzhny / Nadal / Gonzalez / Ljubicic / Hewitt / Soderling / Wawrinka / Coria / Nalbandian / Kohlschreiber
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Re: The players that as good on hard as they are on clay

Guccione, same level of crappyness on all surfaces.
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Guccione, same level of crappyness on all surfaces.
Yes, in order to satisfy the OP's question, we need not to look at the top players

Federer / Haas / Safin / Gaudio / Kuerten / Youzhny / Nadal / Gonzalez / Ljubicic / Hewitt / Soderling / Wawrinka / Coria / Nalbandian / Kohlschreiber
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Roger is a very good candidate for this category.. I mean he has only really lost to ONE player. If Nadal wasn't in on the scene and Roger won all those titles on clay, I don't think there would be many doubting his ability on clay.
This. Roger is great on clay. Nadal is just ridiculous (plus the whole matchup thing, blah blah blah).
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