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Why Nadal is still the favorite for US Open '10 despite toronto and cinci losses

if nadal's not the favorite for the us open, who else is the favorite? i question again, who else is the favorite? will it be murray who played like crap on his favorite surface and lost to fish? or will it be federer who hasn't won an ATP singles title in ages? will it be djokovic who has lost his way in tennis?

nadal is still the top favorite for the us open for the following reasons.......

1. rafa takes his time to get a feel of things.......the recovery time he took after the knee treatment made him ready for tennis again but that was never going to guarantee any immediate success.......defeats in toronto and cinci do not suggest much about what he is capable of in the us open.......

2. hardcourts being his worst surfaces, sufficient matchplay(which he has now for uso) was always going to be minimum requirement for even little success.......

3. despite horrible form, fitness and lack of confidence last year, he made it to the semis and only lost to the eventual title winner.......he is fit and ready to play this time, unlike last year.......

4. it's good to experiment and lose in events like these than experimenting in slams.......those 41 unforced errors and repetitive use of slice should suggest that he was trying something different out there.......

5. agreed that the backhand has been disappointing lately but it's good that he is going to find the range at the right time.......

6. fit and ready, 7 matches of good enough hitting and various experiments on different groundstrokes, i think he now knows how to approach the slam and also how to win it.......

no one knows better than rafa how to take the game to the next level in slams and deal with clutch situations.......he is the top favorite according to me.......discuss.......
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Federer is the clear favorite IMO...the only guy that has beaten him at the USO in the past 6(?) years isn't even in the tournament. We've seen Federer raise his game too many times to say anyone else here.

There are too many players that can give Nadal trouble on a fast hardcourt. I just don't like his chances, especially with the way his backhand and return are looking right now.
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Re: Why Nadal is still the favorite for US Open '10 despite toronto and cinci losses

There is no clear favorite for US open this year. Fact.

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No. It's obviously Federer, the five time champion, followed by Murray the toronto champion, followed by the winner of Cincy (especially if it's Roddick) followed by some of the other top players. Nadal is no where near the top, but in the small part of your mind left that still functions you already knew that
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Sampras is still the favourite for US Open despite being retired.

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Federer is the clear favorite IMO...the only guy that has beaten him at the USO in the past 6(?) years isn't even in the tournament. We've seen Federer raise his game too many times to say anyone else here.

There are too many players that can give Nadal trouble on a fast hardcourt. I just don't like his chances, especially with the way his backhand and return are looking right now.
fed's real hurdles lie before the semis.......berdych took him out on his favorite surface and we have a few more players who can play well on hardcourts than on grass and obviously they would fancy their chances.......everybody is expecting nadal to go down at the us open but what these toronto and cinci defeats have done to rafa is, freed rafa off any kind of expectations and put the onus right back on fed.......
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Re: Why Nadal is still the favorite for US Open '10 despite toronto and cinci losses

He certainly had the potential to be the favourite, given no one else showing much form whatsoever, aside from Murray. Rafa looked like he didn't know what he was doing in the last two weeks though. He just looks unprepared in every aspect. He failed to play himself into any form in seven matches, and overall his form dropped off from last week to this week. So no he is not the favourite, too many people can trouble him and too many people know they can trouble him, more to the point.
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Can't wait untill Rafitto loses at USO so I can bump this thread and make fun of star...da...dots (again).
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he is the top favorite according to me.......
according to you probably, everyone else will say Federer.
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Re: Why Nadal is still the favorite for US Open '10 despite toronto and cinci losses

Nadal has not looked good these past two weeks but you can never count him out in best of 5 set matches.
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Re: Why Nadal is still the favorite for US Open '10 despite toronto and cinci losses

Back in the real world, Nadal looks like a sitting duck on this surface, as he does every single year. Even in 2008 he was outplayed by Murray at the USO and killed by Djokovic at Cincy. His main achievement was making Djokovic choke at the Olympics.

You can't write a winner like Nadal off but at the moment it's looking like any number of players could take him out. The only top player you'd fancy his chances against is Federer, who always seems to find a way to lose to him.
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don't u have anti-spam or reCAPTCHA technolofy here, MTF admins ?

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get lost moron......if it's that much of a pain in the arse when talking about the current world no.1 and king of tennis as the favorite for the title, you don't deserve to enter this thread.......do you even realize that we are talking about the present world no.1 who has already won 2 slams and several masters titles this year?

go ahead clown, tell me who's winning the us open if not nadal.......
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Nadal has not looked good these past two weeks but you can never count him out in best of 5 set matches.
well said, beating him in 3 set matches is a different thing and beating him in 5 set matches in slam environment is a whole different thing.......how many of these so called hardcourt dangers beat rafa in slams in the last 2 years? the last 3 times he lost in a hardcourt slam, he was injured in two matches and totally steamed out in the other.......when he was fit and playing just above average tennis, he took AO 2009.......
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