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Roger Federers road back to world number one

Can it be done?

If last year repeats itself, and Roger has a good performance at the US Open, winning or reaching the final, does better at the WTF, and goes further than Nadal at the Australian Open and post Aus Open hardcourt events, can he get back to Number one?

Hes already going to do better at Cincinatti.

He will probably go further than Nadal at WTF because Nadal always sucks there.

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Roger doesn't have to defend practically anything from Dubai to Madrid and can improve in both RG and Wimbledon, I think he has a chance but only if he sets out to win tournaments early on the year, I don't see Roger winning anything on clay, maybe Halle on grass

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If Nadal is injured throughout the clay season, then it can be done. Otherwise it's extremely unlikely to happen. I've long maintained that the logistics of the tennis calendar heavily favours a player who can dominate one surface and stay consistent on other surfaces - that describes Nadal perfectly: he cleans up on clay EVERY year and scores very consistent results outside of clay. For Nadal not to be #1 it takes either superhuman efforts like when Federer was in GOD-mode and dominated hard courts - something which he does not possess anymore - or a badly timed injury to Nadal like in 2009. Nadal is the rightful #1 at the moment.

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If Nadal is injured throughout the clay season, then it can be done. Otherwise it's extremely unlikely to happen. I've long maintained that the logistics of the tennis calendar heavily favours a player who can dominate one surface and stay consistent on other surfaces - that describes Nadal perfectly: he cleans up on clay EVERY year and scores very consistent results outside of clay. For Nadal not to be #1 it takes either superhuman efforts like when Federer was in GOD-mode and dominated hard courts - something which he does not possess anymore - or a badly timed injury to Nadal like in 2009. Nadal is the rightful #1 at the moment.
actually i beg to defer... if roger can do well -- better than last yr... and get strong results for the rest of this yr... including US open of cos... and defends aopen next yr... he has a chance to get back to #1 in clay season or by wimbledon next yr so long as he cleans up his act and get back to his winning ways... in clay/wimbledon... nadal has practially scored perfect this yr so he can't gain anymore points next yr to prevent federer from gaining back...

of cos... it's still too early to tell wat will happen...


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If Nadal is injured throughout the clay season, then it can be done. Otherwise it's extremely unlikely to happen. I've long maintained that the logistics of the tennis calendar heavily favours a player who can dominate one surface and stay consistent on other surfaces - that describes Nadal perfectly: he cleans up on clay EVERY year and scores very consistent results outside of clay. For Nadal not to be #1 it takes either superhuman efforts like when Federer was in GOD-mode and dominated hard courts - something which he does not possess anymore - or a badly timed injury to Nadal like in 2009. Nadal is the rightful #1 at the moment.
Like when Federer's tennis was "not human" and "immortal"?

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I don't think he will, sadly. These last two weeks are certainly encouraging but I don't know if he'll be able to get deep runs in all the smaller tournaments which is something he'll need to do. I mean, even in 2009 he kind of dropped off at the end of the year, he wouldn't be allowed to get results like losses to Benneteau in Paris for example. He'd have to make sure he wins the smaller events like Halle, Stockholm, Estoril. Rafa would probably have to have a less dominant spring/summer. Then again I never thought he'd get it back after he lost it the first time, so it's stupid to write him off completely regarding getting #1 back.

Will Federer regain the #1 spot and break Sampras's record for most weeks at the top?

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I doubt if #1 is that important to Federer anymore. Slams is what interests him these days.
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If he want's he has to win cca 1000 points more until the end of this year then he did last year . Then even if he doesn't defend AO title with decent result there he is in good position because except Madrid he hasn't nothing to defend until August

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A half decent thread from 2003 Yeah it can definitely be done, especially if players like Del Potro, Nalbandian, and Davydenko can cut into Nadal's clay points which are perfect at the moment. If Roger can win the TMC he'll be in a great position because it rewards a huge number of points and Nadal always does poorly.
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It can be done.

If it will..

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Hes already going to do better at Cincinatti.
Last year Fed made QF in Canada and W Cinci: 1180 points
This year he made the final in Canada and for now has reached SF in Cinci: 960 points.
Roger is still defending pre-USO HC points.

Last year, Rafa made QF in Canada and SF in Cinci: 540 points
This year, he has achieved the same results, albeit the other way around: 540 points.

So Rafa has defended his points, while Fed won't if he loses today (if he beats Baghdatis but loses the final, he'll make 1200 points, which is about the same as last year's result; if he wins Cinci, he'll make 1600 points, which will aloow him to cut the difference with Rafa by 420 points). He may well do it, but we'll have to wait till tomorow night.

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He will probably go further than Nadal at WTF because Nadal always sucks there.
I was aware that 2 SF out of 3 appearances cannot be described as brilliant, but 'sucks'? Well, if you say so...

Back on topic, of course Fed can do it, the question is not can he but will he.
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I doubt if #1 is that important to Federer anymore. Slams is what interests him these days.
when it comes to roger he seems to love history and records the only way I see him being motivated to reclaim the spot is for him to aim for the pete sampras record
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I doubt if #1 is that important to Federer anymore. Slams is what interests him these days.
Well he already owns the slam record, not so the most weeks at number one record, so heres his chance to lean the scales of history toward him. So I disagree.

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