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Maybe he just isnt good enough to be what some of you fans expect?

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or maybe he just passed his peak and will never be the same again?

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I think it will be better for Nole to consider hiring somebody new

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As some said before, he needs to get his arrogance/cockiness back.

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Just makes me wonder how much he could of achieved since 2008 had he kept his awesome level of play up.
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can we pinpoint nole's turning point in 2008 after his amazing run during the early part of that season.

was it the defeat to rafa in hamburg or was it the roland garros loss to rafa or was it that awful loss to safin at wimbledon?

i reckon his losses to rafa at hamburg, roland garros, queens and loss to safin was the turning point.
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you know the short fat guy, his "coach" .Who isn't tired of watching this guy at every match and who isn't tired of watching Nole lose badly? I mean he should have changed the coach 2 years when the problems were apparent but he is stubbornly sticking with it and he is sinking like a quicksand

Does this guy help him with his serve?
Does he help him with the conditiong and allergies ?
Does he give him nutritional advice?
Does he help him with motivation?

It's probably better if he were alone instead of such a company but he is wasting his career , no slam finals in over 2 years, only 1 masters in last 2 years but so many pathetic losses where he just gave up.
I didnt know coaches need to be doctors too.

Obviously this man has helped him to become what he is and he sticks to him, which is good, without him Djokovic maybe wouldnt have been this player. I do not believe this is only coach's fault, Djokovic must be doing something wrong too, or maybe he doesnt have motivation.
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I think somebody is nervous...

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can we pinpoint nole's turning point in 2008 after his amazing run during the early part of that season.

was it the defeat to rafa in hamburg or was it the roland garros loss to rafa or was it that awful loss to safin at wimbledon?

i reckon his losses to rafa at hamburg, roland garros, queens and loss to safin was the turning point.
I think the turning point was firstly the loss at Hamburg 2008 SF to Rafa (the first battle for the #2 ranking), I doubt RG would have had much of an impact on him (no way is Nole beating Rafa over best of 5 sets, he does not have the stamina nor mentality to pull out a win).

The loss at the Queens final surely had an effect on Nole, it was a fast court, so a lot of people would have picked Nole to prevail over Rafa, I know that I did.

There is a pattern with both the Hamburg SF and Queens F matches, Nole was up 3-0 in the 1st set in both matches, had chances to get the double break for a 4-0 lead, but just could not pull through, and Rafa was too tough for Nole to handle.

Other matches I would like to mention are losing in the second round in Wimbledon 2008 to Safin no doubt knocked his big ego at the time down a few notches, at that time, he had made 5 consecutive grand slam SF, and was expected by many to get to the SF to face Federer.

Also, losing to Rafa at the Olympics SF had a huge effect on him, Nole so badly wanted the gold medal, the fact is that Rafa beat Nole at his own game on a fast HC (Nole's best surface), which had to shatter Nole's confidence even more.

And the US Open incident with Roddick, we all know what happened after that, Nole has become soft, he is passive and I do not feel that his game has improved in any way at all, if anything, his game has regressed, his forehand sucks these days, and his serve is nothing compared to what it used to be...oh Nole

Lets just say Rafa has played a HUGE part for Nole's loss of confidence, Nole is simply unable to beat Rafa in the big matches (countless matches on clay in 2009, Olympics SF, Hamburg SF for #2 ranking, Queens F where Nole was favourite to win).
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Sorry to break to you but Novak is a great player but not an outstanding talented one to the likes of Federer or Nadal level or any other outstanding multi slam champion for that matter. I would even put Nalbandian as slightly more talented and he hasn`t won a GS slam yet.

Djokovic is a great top player, he has a very well rounded consistent game, great FH a solid and steady backhand a nice serve and descent volley skills and mental. Having said that he doesn`t possess anything outstanding in his arsenal neither technically or mentally. When he gets hot mentally he can have great results, I remeber I think just last year where he was one of the players that most pushed Nadal on clay specially that endless final in Hamburg I belive, which could have lead to Nadal eventual tireness, physycal issues and loss to Soderling. Slam finals, I am not sure how many MS 1000 he has one but I think a few...etc..

But in the end is just that. Djokovic is a great top player, but he will not beat a Federer playing really well on any surface nor Nadal for that matter maybe aside from fast HC. He is also the type of player that can lose to several other good top players on any given day. So is just that, he is quite similar to Andy Murray, having achivied more than him yet as far as GS and on clay as well. I think as a Nole fan you can`t complain too much, I think he could problably achievied maybe another slam and a few MS 100, but either way he is career is going just fine in accordance to his game. Specially when you consider that guys like Nalbandian, Haas, Murray that has won as big yet....

I also think he is similar to Delpo in the sense that the Argentine won it big and young, but he doesn`t really have that talent or expectations of winnning GS left and right. And I think most people would not be surprised if he won just that US open, for example. Given that he is great top player,but not also an outstanding player technically or mentally.
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Nole lost his cockiness and along with it went his confidence, the Djoker of 2008 played a thousand times better than this washed-up version that hasn't even won a MS since Paris-Tankcy last year
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Wasn't it Todd Martin who fucked up his serve?

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so what ? all doctors claim that there is no cure for anything, that's how they stay in business. Quick search will tell you that asthma is related to Magnesium deficiency and probably to some amino acid inbalance or deficiency
Ummm no... look, I'm sure he has tried stuff. I doubt he is like, "Well, that's that career done, isn't it?"

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