again, you are wrong for expecting specific predictions.....in longterm predictions, the point is not about how many wins or when and where they are scored
Here are some examples of long term predictions: Murray will win a slam, Djokovic will win Wimbledon, Djokovic will lead Nadal in the H2H. With these predictions you clearly know whether or not they've happened, even if the timeframe or surface isn't specified.
How do you know when a prediction like "Djokovic will challenge/rival Nadal" comes true? Answer: you have to have a debate about what it means to challenge or rival another player. We've had that debate, and your response has been that there is no particular timeframe, no particular surface, and no particular number of matches Djokovic needed to win. Somehow you count that as a victory!
The end result is that the prediction could have come true with Djokovic winning most encounters and most slams, or Nadal winning most encounters and most slams. Even in a world in which Nadal continues his domination after USO 2010 (as you seemed to think would happen) there's still a place for Djokovic as a rival. That's essentially my point.
If you don't make specific predictions, you can't take credit for specific results. If you can accept that, and accept you didn't directly predict what happened in 2011 (at least not on these forums), then we can probably agree.
.....that's an immature take at things......the point is about the challenge.....did i say soderling will rival nadal in the future even when soderling was the one who actually scored a slam win over rafa? no.....i still said djokovic at a time when he was struggling like a dog with all the stamina issues.....
The H2H was 3-1 before RG 2009, and Nadal was clearly far from his best in the match he lost. I take your point, except that Djokovic never faced Nadal in a HC slam before USO 2010, despite leading the H2H on hardcourt, and also reached the semis at the USO for 4 consecutive years before 2011, losing to an in-form Federer 3 times.
I find it a bit strange that you've said the surface doesn't matter, as Djokovic always did well on hard courts vs. Nadal. It's clay and especially grass where he's struggled.
the discussion did not start because i wanted credit for something......the discussion started and still running because you poked your nose in and tried to disprove something which you yourself aren't sure of and are stuck in an endless loop, first by questioning the time frame, then by questioning the matches, then questioning about no.1 ranking......haha what else can you try? and of course you are going to get the ball back as long as you keep throwing it just for the heck of it.....
I asked these questions to find out what you were supposed to have predicted, in light of the 2010 thread you created, prior to Djokovic's 'rise'. In the end we discover that the questions don't have answers, because the original prediction was extremely vague. I'm happy with that position!
the point remains that i predicted the trends way back in 2009.....you din't.....you are just trying your best to deny and disprove but it's just ain't happening for you.....
In general I don't make predictions because I know how easy it is to be wrong. But this isn't about me.